Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive (Out Now!)

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EvilDragon wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 9:01 pm
PietW. wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 8:28 pm
EvilDragon wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 6:54 pm Form is cutting edge. Super 8 is just as great in getting the vintage analog sound as Repro-5, just a different flavor of it.
Are you sponsored by NI or why are you writing such a bullshit here?
So if you don't agree with something it's immediately bullshit? Compelling argument, there, no question about it.
come on....super8 vs Repro5?? really?

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They both sound great and are top of the crop in virtual analog emulation IMHO, yes.

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exmatproton wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 9:01 pm
PietW. wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 8:28 pm
EvilDragon wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 6:54 pm Form is cutting edge. Super 8 is just as great in getting the vintage analog sound as Repro-5, just a different flavor of it.
Are you sponsored by NI or why are you writing such a bullshit here?
agreed.... :party:
can we not have a pile up on ed :shrug:
people can have differing opinions without being c**ts about it :)
:ud:

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sure...sry...

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Yeah I'm all ears if somebody has a valid non-ad-hominem argument on why S8 wouldn't be considered as good as Repro-5, taking the raw core sound in question only (Repro obviously wins in FX - and that's fair, since they're really phenomenal). The filter sounds absolutely great in both synths, and the Character knob in S8 gives you different flavors of the same Curtis chip (which BTW is also what Repro-5 models). S8 wins in modulation possibilities and has a wider range of possible raw waveforms due to how the oscillators work. Repro-5 has the very cool Tweaks page with interesting stuff there. S8 is extremely fast to use because there's no tabbing. Both are equally great in different aspects.

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EvilDragon wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 9:06 pm Yeah I'm all ears if somebody has a valid non-ad-hominem argument on why S8 wouldn't be considered as good as Repro-5, taking the raw core sound in question only (Repro obviously wins in FX - and that's fair, since they're really phenomenal). The filter sounds absolutely great in both synths, and the Character knob in S8 gives you different flavors of the same Curtis chip (which BTW is also what Repro-5 models). S8 wins in modulation possibilities and has a wider range of possible raw waveforms due to how the oscillators work. Repro-5 has the very cool Tweaks page with interesting stuff there. S8 is extremely fast to use because there's no tabbing. Both are equally great in different aspects.
Honestly, I don't know why people are comparing two completely different synths.

But I guess that's the KVR way.

Why don't we compare Serum to The Legend just for shits and giggles?

That should be a fun debate.

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wagtunes wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 9:38 pm
EvilDragon wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 9:06 pm Yeah I'm all ears if somebody has a valid non-ad-hominem argument on why S8 wouldn't be considered as good as Repro-5, taking the raw core sound in question only (Repro obviously wins in FX - and that's fair, since they're really phenomenal). The filter sounds absolutely great in both synths, and the Character knob in S8 gives you different flavors of the same Curtis chip (which BTW is also what Repro-5 models). S8 wins in modulation possibilities and has a wider range of possible raw waveforms due to how the oscillators work. Repro-5 has the very cool Tweaks page with interesting stuff there. S8 is extremely fast to use because there's no tabbing. Both are equally great in different aspects.
Honestly, I don't know why people are comparing two completely different synths.

But I guess that's the KVR way.

Why don't we compare Serum to The Legend just for shits and giggles?

That should be a fun debate.
Better this:
This Plugin versus OnePingOnly.
:o

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wagtunes wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 9:38 pmHonestly, I don't know why people are comparing two completely different synths.
Because they're not exactly "kompletely" different. Both S8 and Repro-5 are based (S8 in the filter) on Prophet-5 Rev 3 and the exact same Curtis chip that powers that filter, with S8 expanding the oscillator section with some Alpha Juno vibes and extending modulation. Both are virtual vintage analogs reimagined in a more modern fashion. They're more similar than you think. Of course Serum vs The Legend makes no sense, since one of them is a wavetable synth and the other is not :)

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So... this X thing will be a Kontakt library, right?

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:hihi:

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It's going to be a Reaktor instrument that can only be opened in Komplete Kontrol and it will only work if you don't have Serum installed on your system.

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Silly me, clicking on the most recent page of a Massive X topic,
and expecting it to actually be discussed :dog:

Maybe page 93 will bring better luck :roll:

:hyper: Cheers

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It's hard to discuss something we've only seen a couple videos of. I guess the big news for now is that we know the release date :)

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EvilDragon wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 9:45 pm
wagtunes wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 9:38 pmHonestly, I don't know why people are comparing two completely different synths.
Because they're not exactly "kompletely" different. Both S8 and Repro-5 are based (S8 in the filter) on Prophet-5 Rev 3 and the exact same Curtis chip that powers that filter, with S8 expanding the oscillator section with some Alpha Juno vibes and extending modulation. Both are virtual vintage analogs reimagined in a more modern fashion. They're more similar than you think. Of course Serum vs The Legend makes no sense, since one of them is a wavetable synth and the other is not :)
I do agree they can be compared, but I disagree they're in the same league. As much as I like S8 (and I do), repro's core sound is better. IMHO

And I'm really curious where MX will stand as well, sound wise.

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If you say so...

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