lastmessiah wrote: ↑
Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:34 am
chk071 wrote: ↑
Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:24 am
lastmessiah wrote: ↑
Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:14 am
Why wouldn't I? They were built with the synth's profile and meant to complement the sound.
Without knowing that exactly, i would doubt that. IMO, it's rather the best the dev could do. Not every synthesizer developer is a expert in coding effects, and vice versa. Imagine 1 or 2 guys sitting and coding the synth, and then they should code great chorus, phaser, delay, reverb, eq, and compressor effects as well.
Often, you also hear a resemblance to the filter, or other components of the synth, especially in the phaser, or chorus effects. Well, obvious, because a phaser is nothing but a bunch of allpass filters as well, so, obviously, the dev took the filter design (or at least very similar sounding components), and built the phaser with that. At least it pretty much sounds like that in most synths i have tried.
Maybe. I use Strobe and Cypher extensively and the effects seem like they were built as essential elements of the synth rather than just tacked-on effects. They even have a unique character that can't really be replicated by a third-party tool. I think it is nonsense when people assert that third party plug-ins are "better" for whatever reason. This is sound we are talking about, not plumbing.
Sure, but, what i always realize is that, regardless what i throw at them, NI Choral and Replika XT, or Adam Szabo's Phazor will sound great. Which is not something i can say about most of the onboard fx. And, some are even outright horrible, like the effects on Waldorf Largo.
There's also no better onboard saturation effect than what i get out of NI Dirt, Klanghelm SDRR, or Wave Arts Tube Saturator Vintage. The closest is the saturation in NI's Monark, but, that's part of the synth, and no onboard effect.
For me, i don't even think it's very relevant to have effects which fit the synth. I really can't say any of the effects i mentioned don't fit a particular synth. The opposite, a bad distortion, for example, can totally mess up a good synth sound, instead of contributing to it. I'll mention Largo as an example again: I haven't found any proper use case for the implemented filter drive types, apart from total destruction of the audio signal. IMO, it's pretty much unusable for anything subtle. That's where good outboard saturation shines IMO. Subtle use, which will give you a warm, analog vibe. Instead of ugly digital smear.