Finger snap sound from Janet Jackson's "Control"

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Appears at 3 seconds in and throughout the song. I don't think it's from any of the drum machines around at the time. Possibly from a rompler synth?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKe9AeV0yAU

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1. Setup mic
2. Arm record
3. Three two one...
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I mean, some producers know how to make samples themselves...
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might be an octopus, no thumbs :shrug:
or a horse.

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vurt wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:01 pm might be an octopus, no thumbs :shrug:
or a horse.
To be fair that's gotta make even setting up the mic a bit challenging ... :hihi:

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thecontrolcentre wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:11 pm
vurt wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:01 pm might be an octopus, no thumbs :shrug:
or a horse.
To be fair that's gotta make even setting up the mic a bit challenging ... :hihi:
...and cleanup of the studio afterwards will be more than just packing a few mics away...

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that's why im erring on the side of octopus, they're very clever 8)

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It sounds like claves to me. :shrug:

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Spin Boyz wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:17 pm It sounds like calves to me. :shrug:
yup, baby cows dont have thumbs either.

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vurt wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:20 pm
Spin Boyz wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:17 pm It sounds like calves to me. :shrug:
yup, baby cows dont have thumbs either.
Ha....
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Maybe it's castanets. Jam and Lewis used the same sounds on many songs by various artists they produced back then...

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e-crooner wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:32 pm Maybe it's castanets. Jam and Lewis used the same sounds on many songs by various artists they produced back then...
They did, but I'm having trouble finding out what they did for that particular sound. I don't recall hearing it elsewhere, so maybe it's one they came up with themselves.

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e-crooner wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:32 pm Maybe it's castanets. Jam and Lewis used the same sounds on many songs by various artists they produced back then...
Yep, sounds a lot like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKLPR2fzUGY

This might help:
https://freesound.org/people/Satoration/sounds/57299/
https://freewavesamples.com/roland-r-8-castanet
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It's hand claps (says Jimmy Jam...).
Key Tracks: Jimmy Jam on Janet Jackson’s Control
The super producer talks us through the recording process for one of the biggest albums of the ’80s
https://daily.redbullmusicacademy.com/2 ... on-control
On “Control,” he put the delay and echo on the hand claps. He asked us, “Do you like that?” We said, “Yeah. Yeah. We really love it!” I just saw Babyface the other day. We were talking and he said, “You know that hand clap thing we do? We got it from you guys.” If you listen to “Don’t Be Cruel” by Bobby Brown, the hand claps on there, they got the idea for it from “Control.” Steve’s influence on Control is just immeasurable.

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More quotes from the same source (on gear):
One of the decisions we made for Janet’s record was that we weren’t going to use the DMX drum machine because we wanted her to have a different sound. We used the Linn Drum as our main drum machine. What we did is we went out and bought a bunch of custom sound cards. Everything nowadays is electronic, but back then, we had to literally open the drum machine up and there were these little tiny plugs and we could pop them out and physically put a new sound card in and lock it in.

Janet Jackson - When I Think of You
It was the first time we used those sounds. When we would hear them, it’d made us think different creatively. There was a keyboard that came out that was called the Mirage. It was one of the first sampling keyboards. Once we got one of them, we went to town with it. We loved it. The keyboard sounds on “Nasty” are from the Mirage. The horn stabs on “When I Think of You” came from the Mirage. We used the bass sounds from the Yamaha DX7 on “When I Think of You.” We had a bunch of new toys and they added to our inspiration because we were trying to make something sound different and unique for Janet. These sounds have sort of become her trademarks.

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