How do you randomise note length in randomly generated midi?

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SHall1000
KVRist
299 posts since 13 May, 2015

Post Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:25 pm

There are a number of VST and max4live riff generators but they all seem to produce fixed note length. I want to be able to produce long notes and chords for pads and drones but of randomised length for my generative patches.

Any suggestions welcome. Thanks

SHall1000
KVRist
299 posts since 13 May, 2015

Re: How do you randomise note length in randomly generated midi?

Post Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:38 am

Bump.

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KVRAF
4412 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere

Re: How do you randomise note length in randomly generated midi?

Post Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:55 am

There are quite a few iOS apps that will do that

pottering
KVRian
757 posts since 14 Dec, 2014

Re: How do you randomise note length in randomly generated midi?

Post Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:26 pm

Some M4L devices:

Max ImproBeat from Max for Live Building Tools allows to select 8 note lengths and vary their probability "weight" (every X beats).

https://www.ableton.com/en/packs/max-li ... ing-tools/

Patter (paid) can vary note length and timing:

https://www.ableton.com/en/packs/patter/

Tricky Traps (paid) has 2 devices that allow selecting note in independent "play heads", at least you can add some note length variation:

https://www.ableton.com/en/packs/tricky ... x_for_live

TATAT lets set random "weights" for 3 note lengths, and MOOR can random note length for all steps, but is monophonic (both paid).

https://k-devices.com/product-category/oog-series/

Step Sequencer in Max for Live Big Three can vary length, but note start is grid-locked (seems most M4L sequencers are like that).

https://www.ableton.com/en/packs/big-three/

Gone soft
KVRian
947 posts since 3 Oct, 2011

Re: How do you randomise note length in randomly generated midi?

Post Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:34 am

If you can be bothered to try out yet another plugin there's MidiMadness, sorry if all you want to do is alter notelength of pre existing MIDI or if MM isn't your kind of random or not random enough or for some other reason not suitable for your use -> https://www.pluginboutique.com/product/ ... -Madness-3

SHall1000
KVRist
299 posts since 13 May, 2015

Re: How do you randomise note length in randomly generated midi?

Post Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:26 am

Thanks for the suggestions, I will give them all a go. Thought M4L was my best bet.
There is the note length midi device in Ableton Live but it has no random function. I seem to remember seeing a device that could modulate/randomize parameters on other devices but perhaps I imagined it as I can't find anything.

pottering
KVRian
757 posts since 14 Dec, 2014

Re: How do you randomise note length in randomly generated midi?

Post Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:40 am

You should be able to assign LFO and Shaper to the knobs in Note Length, both have some random options (S&H and Jitter).

https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/max-for-live-devices/

SHall1000
KVRist
299 posts since 13 May, 2015

Re: How do you randomise note length in randomly generated midi?

Post Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:44 am

Thanks. My memory is not that bad then. Will try them out.

dirtysnow
KVRer
22 posts since 20 Apr, 2015

Re: How do you randomise note length in randomly generated midi?

Post Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:22 pm

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