Catalina and plugins

[fmr]

Given the amount of years you've been whining about Apple, you must be close to needing a new computer. I bet you can't wait to finally be free of having to back a smartphone company who despises you

Yeah, it will be good when that day arrives. The repetition of the same complaints gets old quickly.

Sorry reading some truths is disturbing you

Regarding the new computer, new Apple computers are so good that mine still holds perfectly against the vast majority of them

[chk071]

Moreover, with Logic Pro X, Apple have completely changed the rhythm and content of updates. Years of great updates and tons of bug-fixes for free, while Cubasers get hit every six-months for upgrade cash

Not quite. It's one year.

Maybe they changed, but it used to be .5 upgrades every half-year. Anyway, my point remains.

As far as i know, they've always been yearly, since they changed to that release cycle.

[fmr]

Moreover, with Logic Pro X, Apple have completely changed the rhythm and content of updates. Years of great updates and tons of bug-fixes for free, while Cubasers get hit every six-months for upgrade cash

Not quite. It's one year.

Maybe they changed, but it used to be .5 upgrades every half-year. Anyway, my point remains.

As far as i know, they've always been yearly, since they changed to that release cycle.

Don't bother. He also said that Logic Pro X costs 130 pounds.

[chk071]

Maybe before the Brexit.

[Forgotten]

Given the amount of years you've been whining about Apple, you must be close to needing a new computer. I bet you can't wait to finally be free of having to back a smartphone company who despises you

Yeah, it will be good when that day arrives. The repetition of the same complaints gets old quickly.

Sorry reading some truths is disturbing you

Regarding the new computer, new Apple computers are so good that mine still holds perfectly against the vast majority of them

Dammit!

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

Moreover, with Logic Pro X, Apple have completely changed the rhythm and content of updates. Years of great updates and tons of bug-fixes for free, while Cubasers get hit every six-months for upgrade cash

Not quite. It's one year.

Maybe they changed, but it used to be .5 upgrades every half-year. Anyway, my point remains.

As far as i know, they've always been yearly, since they changed to that release cycle.

Don't bother. He also said that Logic Pro X costs 130 pounds.

Did I say that? Did I?

Or did I say that I thought that was the price of the upgrades from 7-8, and 8-9?

Well, it turns out that those upgrades were more expensive, and that Logic Pro X is cheaper...and was released at £139. My confusion is probably due to the fact that I bought Logic 8 & 9 as physical copies, in pounds, sent from England, but I bought Pro X while in Europe. So, I was out by just over nine pounds

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/apple-logic-pro-x

[Dasheesh]

@Angus_fx

Thanks for the reply. I run geist2 and cypher 2 on my pc so shouldn't have any problems. I have a 2015 macbook pro that i load all my older version stuff and lesser expensive stuff on to tho, to use as a travel rig, so in my case (the older stuff being offloaded onto the mac), im thinking I might just shut off the wifi, any furture updates, and keep it static.

[0degree]

I don't recall most of plugin and host devs issuing warnings when switching between Windows 7 to 8 and 8 to 10. Did I miss something? And every time there's new version of MacOS there's havoc everywhere. I think it means at least that platform is not really developer friendly, is it ?
- Dropping 32 bit support
- New signing verification
- Deprecating OpenGL support meaning devs probably need to start using Metal

And all that time is wasted on fixing Apple's compatibility issues instead of developing the actual software

[fisherKing]

I don't recall most of plugin and host devs issuing warnings when switching between Windows 7 to 8 and 8 to 10. Did I miss something? And every time there's new version of MacOS there's havoc everywhere. I think it means at least that platform is not really developer friendly, is it ?
- Dropping 32 bit support
- New signing verification
- Deprecating OpenGL support meaning devs probably need to start using Metal

And all that time is spent on fixing Apple's compatibility issues instead of developing the actual software

'havoc everywhere'? doesn't this sort-of apple-hating thing get tiresome? i have been on macs for 20 years, and all is well. 32bit support is over, yes, but all my plugins are already 64bit. and, as i've posted earlier, everything is working (logic x) here. and logic (& final cut, which i also use), get updated regularly.

zzzzzzz........

[0degree]

I don't recall most of plugin and host devs issuing warnings when switching between Windows 7 to 8 and 8 to 10. Did I miss something? And every time there's new version of MacOS there's havoc everywhere. I think it means at least that platform is not really developer friendly, is it ?
- Dropping 32 bit support
- New signing verification
- Deprecating OpenGL support meaning devs probably need to start using Metal

And all that time is spent on fixing Apple's compatibility issues instead of developing the actual software

'havoc everywhere'? doesn't this sort-of apple-hating thing get tiresome? i have been on macs for 20 years, and all is well. 32bit support is over, yes, but all my plugins are already 64bit. and, as i've posted earlier, everything is working (logic x) here. and logic (& final cut, which i also use), get updated regularly.

zzzzzzz........

Of course, because everything critical against Apple is automatically "hating". I love that kind of argument

[W23]

I got something like a dozen email warnings from different developers. It happens enough to know that it’s a three to six month wait for Catalina over here. I’m not in any hurry. I suppose the developers experience a little stress because they’re scrambling to catch up, but I learned almost 11 years ago to hold off from updating. I had an Apogee Duet turn into a door stop for 6 months. I remember scrambling to find a compatible $99 Line 6 interface to get me through those troubling times.

[fisherKing]

I don't recall most of plugin and host devs issuing warnings when switching between Windows 7 to 8 and 8 to 10. Did I miss something? And every time there's new version of MacOS there's havoc everywhere. I think it means at least that platform is not really developer friendly, is it ?
- Dropping 32 bit support
- New signing verification
- Deprecating OpenGL support meaning devs probably need to start using Metal

And all that time is spent on fixing Apple's compatibility issues instead of developing the actual software

'havoc everywhere'? doesn't this sort-of apple-hating thing get tiresome? i have been on macs for 20 years, and all is well. 32bit support is over, yes, but all my plugins are already 64bit. and, as i've posted earlier, everything is working (logic x) here. and logic (& final cut, which i also use), get updated regularly.

zzzzzzz........

Of course, because everything critical against Apple is automatically "hating". I love that kind of argument

i have my own issues with apple; am not a fanboy, just a (mostly-happy) macuser. critical is good, hate (big or small) is not. just my opinion (of course).

[0degree]

i have my own issues with apple; am not a fanboy, just a (mostly-happy) macuser. critical is good, hate (big or small) is not. just my opinion (of course).

Sure, fair enough. I have no emotional relation with Apple, but sometimes their decisions are weird to say the least

[fisherKing]

i have my own issues with apple; am not a fanboy, just a (mostly-happy) macuser. critical is good, hate (big or small) is not. just my opinion (of course).

Sure, fair enough. I have no emotional relation with Apple, but sometimes their decisions are weird to say the least

unlike, say, most other corporations? seriously, if we all stopped dealing with companies that have: asshole CEOs, or dumb policies, or bad politics, or engage in questionable practices... we'd be buying nothing.

[0degree]

i have my own issues with apple; am not a fanboy, just a (mostly-happy) macuser. critical is good, hate (big or small) is not. just my opinion (of course).

Sure, fair enough. I have no emotional relation with Apple, but sometimes their decisions are weird to say the least

unlike, say, most other corporations? seriously, if we all stopped dealing with companies that have: asshole CEOs, or dumb policies, or bad politics, or engage in questionable practices... we'd be buying nothing.

I get your point, but in this case I was referring more to technical aspect of the update. It just feels like wasted energy on the devs side. And Windows is way better in this matter - it seems like they are taking backwards compatibility more seriously