Any suggestions towards pad sound?

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Mikelo
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1427 posts since 10 Mar, 2004

Post Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:42 am

Hi all working on a track at the moment which is in the vocal trance genre.
I'm having trouble with a pad I'm using. I'm sure I probably don't need to change it but it just needs work on it. It carries the song and it's in the saw variety.
It might just be a mind set, but it seems a little hollow to me. Not sure if it needs another layer to thicken the sound or further eq.
Some advice would be gratefully appreciated.
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Michael.

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CHOOS
KVRist
317 posts since 3 Nov, 2010

Re: Any suggestions towards pad sound?

Post Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:58 am

sidechain it and I myself would have it a bit quieter in the mix and it needs more spaciousness so add delay + reverb. and some subtle wide mid cut with EQ

Mikelo
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1427 posts since 10 Mar, 2004

Re: Any suggestions towards pad sound?

Post Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:01 am

CHOOS wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:58 am
sidechain it and I myself would have it a bit quieter in the mix and it needs more spaciousness so add delay + reverb. and some subtle wide mid cut with EQ
Awesome thanks for the tips. I've made a couple of deep cuts eq wise at around 65 and 200.
I'll try your suggestions.
Thanks again.
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Mikelo
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1427 posts since 10 Mar, 2004

Re: Any suggestions towards pad sound?

Post Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:40 am

Right,I've turned down the pad and and added side chain and a simple delay. Hopefully it sounds a little better?

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CHOOS
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317 posts since 3 Nov, 2010

Re: Any suggestions towards pad sound?

Post Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:13 am

Getting better.
There's not much sidechaining going on. It's still quite loud if you ask me.
It's just my opinion but it's your song so tell me to F off if you disagree but I'd make it quieter still and add more reverb and take out even a little more of the low end.
To me the pad should be kinda like the chords of a trance song so it still needs a lead. It would be nice in the last section of the song to have it to wind it down.

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ReboundAudio
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122 posts since 20 Jan, 2019 from Germany

Re: Any suggestions towards pad sound?

Post Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:26 am

I miss the low ends here. No bassline and kick?
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Mikelo
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1427 posts since 10 Mar, 2004

Re: Any suggestions towards pad sound?

Post Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:46 am

CHOOS wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:13 am
Getting better.
There's not much sidechaining going on. It's still quite loud if you ask me.
It's just my opinion but it's your song so tell me to F off if you disagree but I'd make it quieter still and add more reverb and take out even a little more of the low end.
To me the pad should be kinda like the chords of a trance song so it still needs a lead. It would be nice in the last section of the song to have it to wind it down.
Lol Im not going to tell you to f off Choos, Im thankfull for the advice.
I did the minimal of side chaining, almost a beating pulse. Ill have another look at the sound level.
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Mikelo
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1427 posts since 10 Mar, 2004

Re: Any suggestions towards pad sound?

Post Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:47 am

ReboundAudio wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:26 am
I miss the low ends here. No bassline and kick?
Sorry, you lost me?
Oh I think I know what you are talking about.... do you mean the chorus section near the end?
If so, I havent yet automated the volume to compensate.
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Mikelo
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1427 posts since 10 Mar, 2004

Re: Any suggestions towards pad sound?

Post Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:23 pm

Ok, Ive lowered the volume slightly, added reverb, cut out more low end in the pad and giving it a little more side chaining (1/2 beat) ....
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CHOOS
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317 posts since 3 Nov, 2010

Re: Any suggestions towards pad sound?

Post Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:40 pm

it fits nicer but can definitely get even better
Do you want to share the project or stems and I can see what I can enhance

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ReboundAudio
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122 posts since 20 Jan, 2019 from Germany

Re: Any suggestions towards pad sound?

Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:05 am

Mikelo wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:47 am
ReboundAudio wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:26 am
I miss the low ends here. No bassline and kick?
Sorry, you lost me?
Oh I think I know what you are talking about.... do you mean the chorus section near the end?
If so, I havent yet automated the volume to compensate.
No. I talk about Low Ends. Your Kick and Bassline sounds thin. Needs way more Low frequencies.
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