Sidechain ducking. What do I need?

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Mushy Mushy
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12721 posts since 7 Sep, 2008

Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:33 am

My research tells me that in Modularland I need an Envelope Follower to do this. Essentially I’d like to duck a bassline with a kick.

An Envelope Follower sounds counterintuitive to me though. I would have expected I need an Envelope Unfollower :shrug:

Secondly can you recommend a basic module that I can dedicate to solely this task.
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

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vurt
addled muppet weed
53214 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: Sidechain ducking. What do I need?

Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:27 am

in hardware id look at maths
feed kick to channel 1, attenuvert to negative envelope, adjust shape send to vca.

not sure in software of a comparable module.

Mushy Mushy
KVRAF
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Re: Sidechain ducking. What do I need?

Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:21 am

vurt wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:27 am
in hardware id look at maths
feed kick to channel 1, attenuvert to negative envelope, adjust shape send to vca.

not sure in software of a comparable module.
I wasn't very clear was I. I meant hardware.

My research had already led me to the Maths but I discounted it due to being drastically overqualified for the job. I would end up using it for other purposes, thereby still requiring the envelope shaper (or alternative). And no, two of them isn't an option :lol:
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

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vurt
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Re: Sidechain ducking. What do I need?

Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:24 am

well you would just need some other module to invert the signal of the envelope. then same sort of chain.

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vurt
addled muppet weed
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Re: Sidechain ducking. What do I need?

Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:26 am

trying to think if ive seen any negative signal business similar to maths functions?

justin would be better here, this is more the kind of thing he might do.

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vurt
addled muppet weed
53214 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: Sidechain ducking. What do I need?

Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:28 am

have you joined or preparing to join the dark side? :lol:

Mushy Mushy
KVRAF
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Re: Sidechain ducking. What do I need?

Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:34 am

vurt wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:28 am
have you joined or preparing to join the dark side? :lol:
Having my semi-annual contemplation moment. I need to place a Thomann order in the coming weeks and have a Happy Ending in the basket so the wheels are in motion :wink:
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

Mushy Mushy
KVRAF
12721 posts since 7 Sep, 2008

Re: Sidechain ducking. What do I need?

Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:41 am

vurt wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:26 am
trying to think if ive seen any negative signal business similar to maths functions?

justin would be better here, this is more the kind of thing he might do.
I have a while to wait then, I hear he's only useful at 3am.
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

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vurt
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53214 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: Sidechain ducking. What do I need?

Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:43 am

Mushy Mushy wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:41 am
vurt wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:26 am
trying to think if ive seen any negative signal business similar to maths functions?

justin would be better here, this is more the kind of thing he might do.
I have a while to wait then, I hear he's only useful at 3am.
its always 3am somewhere.

eternal!

Mushy Mushy
KVRAF
12721 posts since 7 Sep, 2008

Re: Sidechain ducking. What do I need?

Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:44 am

vurt wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:43 am

its always 3am somewhere.

eternal!
Good point.

@justin3am: Wakey wakey.
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

AnX
KVRAF
5580 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Re: Sidechain ducking. What do I need?

Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:45 am

Mushy Mushy wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:33 am
My research tells me that in Modularland I need...
a cape

Mushy Mushy
KVRAF
12721 posts since 7 Sep, 2008

Re: Sidechain ducking. What do I need?

Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:46 am

AnX wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:45 am
Mushy Mushy wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:33 am
My research tells me that in Modularland I need...
a cape
:lol:
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

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vurt
addled muppet weed
53214 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: Sidechain ducking. What do I need?

Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:51 am

AnX wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:45 am
Mushy Mushy wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:33 am
My research tells me that in Modularland I need...
a cape
comes with your first case purchase :)
i got purple with gold lining, cos that's how i roll!

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toonertik
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1844 posts since 15 Feb, 2017 from a worn out vinyl groove

Re: Sidechain ducking. What do I need?

Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:47 am

Have a read on this mushy
http://www.doepfer.de/a100_man/A119_man.pdf

hope that helps...


My cape btw, is a lovely shade of turquoise, with a yellow lining...
reminds my of the beautiful oceans I have dived and the sun and sand...

no wizardry needed... ;)
:P

Mushy Mushy
KVRAF
12721 posts since 7 Sep, 2008

Re: Sidechain ducking. What do I need?

Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:02 pm

toonertik wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:47 am
Have a read on this mushy
http://www.doepfer.de/a100_man/A119_man.pdf

hope that helps...


My cape btw, is a lovely shade of turquoise, with a yellow lining...
reminds my of the beautiful oceans I have dived and the sun and sand...

no wizardry needed... ;)
:P
:tu:

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"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

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