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jancivil
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Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:02 am

Aloysius wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:21 am
Realistic solo violin

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Ceci n'est pas une violin

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Forgotten
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Re: Realistic solo violin

Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:14 am

Pourquoi pas?

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jancivil
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Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:30 am

fastlanephil wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:48 pm
the 2005 Garritan Stradivarius Solo Violin. I believe it was the first solo violin library. It was just a little too difficult to master for most people as you had to actually play it in using velocity while you controlled vibrato with the mod wheel and expression with an expression pedal. Editing was kind of a nightmare.
That's actually just the very basics of getting a performance out of a samples violin or what-have-you.
With the exception of things which are scripted to get basic behaviors just playing the notes, or advanced modeling a little bit now, the convincing aspect out of using such a thing tends towards the tedious and painful.

Beyond mod wheel and a pedal for CC11 (I actually don't even bother, you have real control in editing, editing is the whole thing unless you're just magical), there is vastly more which can be done to get the details right. Control of the release characteristic; legato blur; cutting into the sample to get a flatter attack for short notes; a B version of the patch which has a pronounced release while A does not; degree of designed error in pitching the thing; repetitions which use round robin (you may not want 'em all, or you want to know from the difference one to the next)

Composers have written detailed violin stuff since forever, being a violinist is not required per se.


So while I think this track is musical, it isn't a violin, and per The Treachery of Images it's an inaccurate picture of one.
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Aloysius
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Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:31 am

dellboy wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:52 am
Aloysius wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:21 am
Realistic solo violin

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You chose poorly as that particular violin resides in a glass case in Oxford England and is never played.

Its permanently muted :hihi:
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jancivil
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Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:33 am

Forgotten wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:14 am
Pourquoi pas?
Well, one way we should be able to tell that is not a violin is a violin is three dimensional...
there are other differences of course

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Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:35 am

jancivil wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:33 am
Forgotten wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:14 am
Pourquoi pas?
one reason that is not a violin is a violin is three dimensional...
there are other differences of course
Ah, thought you had recognized it for a non-standard instrument of some kind. Didn’t cross my mind that you were talking on a literal level. :hihi:

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jancivil
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Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:09 pm

Ah, je ne connaissais pas le tableau.

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Aloysius
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Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:26 pm

Realistic solo violin
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Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:38 pm

dellboy wrote:
Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:54 am
The violin is usually considered to be the hardest instrument to play, so hoping to emulate it with samples and using a keyboard or whatever is a pretty impossible task.
As a clarinet player I would like to state that I think it is actually harder to master :)

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Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:50 pm

Guy Bacos using VSL Solo Violin 2

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Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:37 pm

mtelesha wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:38 pm
dellboy wrote:
Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:54 am
The violin is usually considered to be the hardest instrument to play, so hoping to emulate it with samples and using a keyboard or whatever is a pretty impossible task.
As a clarinet player I would like to state that I think it is actually harder to master :)

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Do you also play the violin so that you can compare the difficulty levels ?

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Aloysius
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Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:44 pm

AS a banjo player, I think it is actually harder to master too.
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jancivil
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Aloysius
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Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:00 pm

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