How to make this hardstyle synth-lead?

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dixiogen
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2 posts since 20 Oct, 2019

Post Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:10 am

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Hello.
I would like to ask for help in recreating synth lead. I don’t quite understand how to make it..

https://clyp.it/pajlxrya (https://clyp.it/pajlxrya)
This is one layer Virus TI with compression, eq, stereo-enchancer, reverb.

I have Serum, Spire, Viper. I don’t understand what kind of modulation there is, such a smooth sound. This does not sound like a normal supersaw.

I will be very grateful for your help. Thank.

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Benedict
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3095 posts since 5 Mar, 2004 from Gold Coast Australia

Re: How to make this hardstyle synth-lead?

Post Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:04 pm

It is simply heavily detuned and using Portamento so it slides around for more "gumminess". Viper I don't know but Serum, Spire or any synth that lets you detune heavily will get you close enough.

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8893 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Re: How to make this hardstyle synth-lead?

Post Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:56 pm

To be clear, when Benedict says "heavily detuned" he is talking about the Unison detune. I'd be very surprised if all those synths you listed don't have a preset that is very close to that sound, as it's a pretty standard EDM sound.
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Benedict
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3095 posts since 5 Mar, 2004 from Gold Coast Australia

Re: How to make this hardstyle synth-lead?

Post Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:03 pm

BONES wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:56 pm
To be clear, when Benedict says "heavily detuned" he is talking about the Unison detune. I'd be very surprised if all those synths you listed don't have a preset that is very close to that sound, as it's a pretty standard EDM sound.
To be clear, BONES made what I said clearer ;-)

dixiogen
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2 posts since 20 Oct, 2019

Re: How to make this hardstyle synth-lead?

Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:59 am

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After long attempts, I made a similar lead with Dune 3.
2 saw osc (1 slightly quieter), 3 osc saw too, 8 unison, 75% detuned, 0 spread, lfo pitch OSC 2 fast modulate, keytrack modulate lfo rate up, slightly eq high, soft filter distortion (as for me, he removed the hiss at high frequencies). External FX: compression, eq, stereo-enchancer, reverb send (settings are similar to the original sample).

https://clyp.it/5op35qmx (https://clyp.it/5op35qmx)

Does it look like the original sample? As for me, the original is more screamy, characteristic.

I don’t understand how to create pitch-punch from original. In serum, this can be done using mast.tun. In Dune, I don't know how to implement it.

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ReboundAudio
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122 posts since 20 Jan, 2019 from Germany

Re: How to make this hardstyle synth-lead?

Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:11 am

Sounds close but you could activate more portamento.
For that set at Master (Top Right) to Mono and Glide at Common / Edit on 50-60%.

I tried it too. :)
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3243 posts since 27 Dec, 2002 from North East England

Re: How to make this hardstyle synth-lead?

Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:31 am

There are some very, very eccentric EQ and phase oddities on the first example. Try running your version through a cabinet sim.

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Re: How to make this hardstyle synth-lead?

Post Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:06 pm

Yeah, sounds like it needs a longer Glide/Portamento time to me. Either that or a bit of envelope modulation on the pitch (with the envelope only re-triggering when you play non-legato). I can't quite work out which it is in the first example but I am leaning towards a bit of each.
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119 posts since 4 Apr, 2006

Re: How to make this hardstyle synth-lead?

Post Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:46 am

the lead example sounds like it has a phaser on it, maybe try that

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