EXTERNAL SSD DRIVE PROBLEM
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- KVRist
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- 46 posts since 11 Jul, 2019
i have some kontakt libraries in an external ssd its one of the fastest ssd's but when i load a kontakt library it takes the same time as an ordinary hdd drive !!! WHY !!!
- KVRAF
- 4590 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
Because it's external, dude External drives always have long access time, especially when they fall into sleep mode.MAICO MALNERO wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:10 am i have some kontakt libraries in an external ssd its one of the fastest ssd's but when i load a kontakt library it takes the same time as an ordinary hdd drive !!! WHY !!!
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- KVRist
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- 46 posts since 11 Jul, 2019
DJ Warmonger wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:26 amBecause it's external, dude External drives always have long access time, especially when they fall into sleep mode.MAICO MALNERO wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:10 am i have some kontakt libraries in an external ssd its one of the fastest ssd's but when i load a kontakt library it takes the same time as an ordinary hdd drive !!! WHY !!!
- Beware the Quoth
- 33168 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Because it doesnt matter how fast the hard drive is, the speed of the transfer is still limited by the speed of the slowest part of that device chain, including the data connection.MAICO MALNERO wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:10 am i have some kontakt libraries in an external ssd its one of the fastest ssd's but when i load a kontakt library it takes the same time as an ordinary hdd drive !!! WHY !!!
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- KVRist
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- KVRAF
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Yes, connect it to a USB 3.0, USB 3.1 or USB-C port with a USB 3 or USB-C cable, NOT with a USB 2.0 cable.MAICO MALNERO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:25 amshould i connect it to a different usb port michael stipe ?
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- Beware the Quoth
- 33168 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
No, do not connect your hard drive to Michael Stipe. He doesnt like it.MAICO MALNERO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:25 amshould i connect it to a different usb port michael stipe ?
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- KVRAF
- 1929 posts since 4 Nov, 2004 from Manchester
Automatic (backup) for the Peoplewhyterabbyt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:40 am No, do not connect your hard drive to Michael Stipe. He doesnt like it.
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- KVRist
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- 46 posts since 11 Jul, 2019
I FOUND A USB PORT THAT SUPPOSSED TO BE 3.0 BECAUSE ITS BLUE IN THE MIDDLE BUT THE CONNECTION IS STILL SLOWMichael L wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:07 amYes, connect it to a USB 3.0, USB 3.1 or USB-C port with a USB 3 or USB-C cable, NOT with a USB 2.0 cable.MAICO MALNERO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:25 amshould i connect it to a different usb port michael stipe ?
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You have USB troubles all over. For instance with keyboard's caps lock..
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- KVRAF
- 6425 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
hmmmm....is the drive connection itself USB 3, or there will not be any gain.....even if computer side and cable is USB 3.
To test either way, take a file a couple of GB and measure the time it takes to copy to internal hdd in computer. Do it both ways, and at least two times, to possibly get any caching comparison.
My own tests of USB2 was that drive was 5-6 times slower than internal SATA2 drives(3 Gbps).
I talked some folks at Spitfire Audio about a library they had delivered on SSD and asked about USB 3 or not - and they did not know.
- you can always take drive out and connect with sata in computer
So they claim it was ready to run from ssd - but it was USB 2 - so really weird how little knowledge even at manufacturers side. It will be dead slow.
It was the new BBC Orchestra.
I earlier bought on hdd another library they have, and this was for install purposes alone, also what they said, so perfect in this sense this hdd service.
So somebody fooled them into thinking SSD makes the difference and still do USB2 only - strange....
To test either way, take a file a couple of GB and measure the time it takes to copy to internal hdd in computer. Do it both ways, and at least two times, to possibly get any caching comparison.
My own tests of USB2 was that drive was 5-6 times slower than internal SATA2 drives(3 Gbps).
I talked some folks at Spitfire Audio about a library they had delivered on SSD and asked about USB 3 or not - and they did not know.
- you can always take drive out and connect with sata in computer
So they claim it was ready to run from ssd - but it was USB 2 - so really weird how little knowledge even at manufacturers side. It will be dead slow.
It was the new BBC Orchestra.
I earlier bought on hdd another library they have, and this was for install purposes alone, also what they said, so perfect in this sense this hdd service.
So somebody fooled them into thinking SSD makes the difference and still do USB2 only - strange....
- KVRAF
- 1877 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
There are many things that could be causing this:
1. Using a crappy SATA-to-USB enclosure. They are not all created equal.
2. Using a SATA-to-USB2 enclosure. BOTH sides must be USB3 devices for you to get USB3 speeds.
3. Using the wrong cable
4. Using a bad cable
5. Using a USB hub in between the drive and computer
6. You are not actually connecting to a USB 3.0 port
7. You don't have the correct chipset drivers installed for your motherboard and are only getting USB2 speed on all ports
8. You are still loading the Kontakt library from your internal drive, by mistake.
If you aren't sure what kind of enclosure you have, look at the USB port on it. It should look either like this: https://www.stc-cable.com/uploads/2t3xsivowvc4868.jpg
or like this: https://www.cooldrives.com/catalog/prod ... mage/2140/
1. Using a crappy SATA-to-USB enclosure. They are not all created equal.
2. Using a SATA-to-USB2 enclosure. BOTH sides must be USB3 devices for you to get USB3 speeds.
3. Using the wrong cable
4. Using a bad cable
5. Using a USB hub in between the drive and computer
6. You are not actually connecting to a USB 3.0 port
7. You don't have the correct chipset drivers installed for your motherboard and are only getting USB2 speed on all ports
8. You are still loading the Kontakt library from your internal drive, by mistake.
If you aren't sure what kind of enclosure you have, look at the USB port on it. It should look either like this: https://www.stc-cable.com/uploads/2t3xsivowvc4868.jpg
or like this: https://www.cooldrives.com/catalog/prod ... mage/2140/
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