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MAICO MALNERO · Post by **MAICO MALNERO** » Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:10 am

i have some kontakt libraries in an external ssd its one of the fastest ssd's but when i load a kontakt library it takes the same time as an ordinary hdd drive !!! WHY !!!

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:26 am

MAICO MALNERO wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:10 am i have some kontakt libraries in an external ssd its one of the fastest ssd's but when i load a kontakt library it takes the same time as an ordinary hdd drive !!! WHY !!!

Because it's external, dude

External drives always have long access time, especially when they fall into sleep mode.

MAICO MALNERO · Post by **MAICO MALNERO** » Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:19 am

DJ Warmonger wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:26 am
MAICO MALNERO wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:10 am i have some kontakt libraries in an external ssd its one of the fastest ssd's but when i load a kontakt library it takes the same time as an ordinary hdd drive !!! WHY !!!
Because it's external, dude External drives always have long access time, especially when they fall into sleep mode.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:13 am

MAICO MALNERO wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:10 am i have some kontakt libraries in an external ssd its one of the fastest ssd's but when i load a kontakt library it takes the same time as an ordinary hdd drive !!! WHY !!!

Because it doesnt matter how fast the hard drive is, the speed of the transfer is still limited by the speed of the slowest part of that device chain, including the data connection.

Michael L · Post by **Michael L** » Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:01 pm

+1
For example, USB 2.0 would cause that bottleneck.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:24 pm

MAICO MALNERO wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:19 am

MAICO MALNERO · Post by **MAICO MALNERO** » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:25 am

Michael L wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:01 pm +1
For example, USB 2.0 would cause that bottleneck.

should i connect it to a different usb port michael stipe ?

Michael L · Post by **Michael L** » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:07 am

MAICO MALNERO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:25 am
Michael L wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:01 pm +1
For example, USB 2.0 would cause that bottleneck.
should i connect it to a different usb port michael stipe ?

Yes, connect it to a USB 3.0, USB 3.1 or USB-C port with a USB 3 or USB-C cable, NOT with a USB 2.0 cable.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:40 am

MAICO MALNERO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:25 am
Michael L wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:01 pm +1
For example, USB 2.0 would cause that bottleneck.
should i connect it to a different usb port michael stipe ?

No, do not connect your hard drive to Michael Stipe. He doesnt like it.

Kaine · Post by **Kaine** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:52 pm

whyterabbyt wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:40 am No, do not connect your hard drive to Michael Stipe. He doesnt like it.

Automatic (backup) for the People

MAICO MALNERO · Post by **MAICO MALNERO** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:50 pm

Michael L wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:07 am
MAICO MALNERO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:25 am
Michael L wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:01 pm +1
For example, USB 2.0 would cause that bottleneck.
should i connect it to a different usb port michael stipe ?
Yes, connect it to a USB 3.0, USB 3.1 or USB-C port with a USB 3 or USB-C cable, NOT with a USB 2.0 cable.

I FOUND A USB PORT THAT SUPPOSSED TO BE 3.0 BECAUSE ITS BLUE IN THE MIDDLE BUT THE CONNECTION IS STILL SLOW

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:03 pm

Did you use the right cable?

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:20 am

You have USB troubles all over. For instance with keyboard's caps lock..

lfm · Post by **lfm** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:07 am

hmmmm....is the drive connection itself USB 3, or there will not be any gain.....even if computer side and cable is USB 3.

To test either way, take a file a couple of GB and measure the time it takes to copy to internal hdd in computer. Do it both ways, and at least two times, to possibly get any caching comparison.

My own tests of USB2 was that drive was 5-6 times slower than internal SATA2 drives(3 Gbps).

I talked some folks at Spitfire Audio about a library they had delivered on SSD and asked about USB 3 or not - and they did not know.
- you can always take drive out and connect with sata in computer

So they claim it was ready to run from ssd - but it was USB 2 - so really weird how little knowledge even at manufacturers side. It will be dead slow.

It was the new BBC Orchestra.

I earlier bought on hdd another library they have, and this was for install purposes alone, also what they said, so perfect in this sense this hdd service.

So somebody fooled them into thinking SSD makes the difference and still do USB2 only - strange....

teilo · Post by **teilo** » Fri Dec 27, 2019 7:27 pm

There are many things that could be causing this:

1. Using a crappy SATA-to-USB enclosure. They are not all created equal.
2. Using a SATA-to-USB2 enclosure. BOTH sides must be USB3 devices for you to get USB3 speeds.
3. Using the wrong cable
4. Using a bad cable
5. Using a USB hub in between the drive and computer
6. You are not actually connecting to a USB 3.0 port
7. You don't have the correct chipset drivers installed for your motherboard and are only getting USB2 speed on all ports
8. You are still loading the Kontakt library from your internal drive, by mistake.

If you aren't sure what kind of enclosure you have, look at the USB port on it. It should look either like this: https://www.stc-cable.com/uploads/2t3xsivowvc4868.jpg

or like this: https://www.cooldrives.com/catalog/prod ... mage/2140/

EXTERNAL SSD DRIVE PROBLEM