Your fave MIDI fx, arp, mapper, mangler, generator, chorder, controller, utility. VST or MFX

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KVRist
171 posts since 13 Dec, 2004 from USA

Post Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:44 pm

David wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:17 pm
New fave: Captain Chords—really!

https://youtu.be/RErvIvZ4rRY
I also wanted to say thanks for the videos. I got the Captain Plugins earlier in the year and recently updated them to the latest version. Been playing around with them a bit, still mainly scratching the surface I think, but your videos have given me a lot of ideas for diving in deeper...

Kalamata Kid
KVRAF
3991 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Re: Your fave MIDI fx, arp, mapper, mangler, generator, chorder, controller, utility. VST or MFX

Post Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:04 pm

Riffer on sale -35% or 35.95.
https://www.producerspot.com/audiomodern-riffer
Looks interesting!
Need opinions.

My notes to myself:
Architect $140 viewtopic.php?f=141&t=517104
get Architect not Riffer.
Perhaps something similar in the Reason 11 Players?
Riffer for iPad about $6.99. Consider the iPad version?
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/riffer/ ... tform=ipad

Interesting Riffer thread
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?p=2065591
lunker stated “Riffer didn't seem to provide anything other than what MIDI Madness and Ex Machina already do so well for me.”

Edit:
I should have searched here before posting:
search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&keyw ... 1&start=15
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Bodhisan
KVRian
578 posts since 7 Aug, 2015 from H2O

Re: Your fave MIDI fx, arp, mapper, mangler, generator, chorder, controller, utility. VST or MFX

Post Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:01 pm

David wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:17 pm
New fave: Captain Chords—really!

https://youtu.be/RErvIvZ4rRY
That's crazy. As I was watching - and I'm pretty much sold on it, I couldn't help but think that composing beautiful melodies is now as easy as throwing paint onto a canvas. On the one hand, it's so cheating, and on the other hand, why not?

Kalamata Kid
KVRAF
3991 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Re: Your fave MIDI fx, arp, mapper, mangler, generator, chorder, controller, utility. VST or MFX

Post Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:47 pm

Trying to compile a list.
Contribute if you can.

Plugins with a lot of midi capability such as editing and fx and such. Modular and whatever.
Reaktor has some midi modules
Architect in beta already has a lot of midi features. viewtopic.php?f=141&t=517474&start=1200
Reason 11 Rack has many midi modules (Players) and will be useful in non-Reason DAW’s once it features a midi output.
HomeGrown Audio. Andy said he will develop midi plugins as part of his next Group Buy. https://hgsounds.com/
Usine Hollyhock 3 http://www.sensomusic.org/ Sadly not a VST, only stand-alone.

Old
Temper now free and 32 bit only http://www.angryredplanet.com/temper/
Infinity never worked right. https://squest.com/Products/Infinity/In ... fects.html
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Kalamata Kid
KVRAF
3991 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Re: Your fave MIDI fx, arp, mapper, mangler, generator, chorder, controller, utility. VST or MFX

Post Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:50 pm

I was wondering if anyone has looked at Usine Hollyhock 3 for its midi features.
http://www.sensomusic.org/
Not a plugin in version 3 but v4 which is to be released likely late this year may be both a stand-alone and a VST. I’m not holding my breath. It can however host VST and AU.
Some info on HH v4
https://www.facebook.com/pg/sensomusicu ... e_internal

Here is the midi list:
http://www.sensomusic.org/addons.php and search for midi
http://www.sensomusic.org/manual/en/modules/midi
So HH has some midi fx and utilities.

PS: HH is multi-touch capable!
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Kalamata Kid
KVRAF
3991 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Re: Your fave MIDI fx, arp, mapper, mangler, generator, chorder, controller, utility. VST or MFX

Post Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:39 am

Breaking News
Hollyhock 4 has been released
http://www.brainmodular.com/
Unfortunately still only runs as a stand-alone and not as a VST.
Too bad as I am already committed to Studio One and if not there is Cubase and Reaper.
Too bad also as it has some nice features.
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Kalamata Kid
KVRAF
3991 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Re: Your fave MIDI fx, arp, mapper, mangler, generator, chorder, controller, utility. VST or MFX

Post Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:28 pm

How about Arpado
https://arpado.site/index.html#section-features
older videos
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Arpado+
Midi arp and more
standalone but may be VSTi on next update?
Multitouch capable?
now 25% off

Comment please.
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Kalamata Kid
KVRAF
3991 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Re: Your fave MIDI fx, arp, mapper, mangler, generator, chorder, controller, utility. VST or MFX

Post Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:55 pm

An Interesting discussion on midi arps and more
viewtopic.php?p=7560008#p7560008

Check out this thread:
What is your favorite Auto Chord progression plugin?
viewtopic.php?t=527073

also
DAW with chord assistant
viewtopic.php?t=523472
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dandezebra
KVRian
1271 posts since 21 Dec, 2013 from USA

Re: Your fave MIDI fx, arp, mapper, mangler, generator, chorder, controller, utility. VST or MFX

Post Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:52 pm

Captain plugs go on sale ever?

Kalamata Kid
KVRAF
3991 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Re: Your fave MIDI fx, arp, mapper, mangler, generator, chorder, controller, utility. VST or MFX

Post Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:19 pm

dandezebra wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:52 pm
Captain plugs go on sale ever?
I just checked out David's video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RErvIvZ ... e=youtu.be
And now would like to know the answer to your question.

My feeling is that there will be a Black Friday sale.
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treesineden
KVRer
6 posts since 8 Oct, 2019

Re: Your fave MIDI fx, arp, mapper, mangler, generator, chorder, controller, utility. VST or MFX

Post Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:34 pm

Ok, it’s November so thought this may be helpful roundup of mostly all of the things talked about in this post for people doing Black Friday or who read this in the future. I did this all by hand from reading the post and I also added a bunch of stuff from my own lists that I think are relevant.
Some of these are name only, to me, as I have not tried them personally, but have just read them in this post. So I may have made some typos or errors on names of products here or there (I don’t know). If you find errors please feel free to correct me and I will update my post (I mean no disrespect whatsoever to devs reading either on my opinions if I didn’t pick your product, it’s prob cause I haven’t tried it, I’d encourage everyone to try out these on their own to find what they like don’t just take my word for it-but all I can say is I can vouch for my picks because I know they are really good because I have used them personally). And please everyone keep adding to my list if you have more I’d be interested to know as well, so onto the midi and audio mangling goodness,
[ before looking at my list you may want to check this out, it is a real thorough search on KVR for windows/Mac/IOS plugins that someone posted (this has even more things then all the lists below) - you can further adjust it to what your interested in and resubmit the search to find what you’re after, here’s the link: https://www.kvraudio.com/plugins/window ... sor/newest ]

At a glance, here are my top picks for various tools, but please take this with a grain of salt because I have not tried all the tools noted in this forum post yet, so that may be why I didn’t pick them as my favorite below:

-My picks for AI music software-
Orbcomposer
Aiva
*Rapid composer, melody sauce, and synfire also look interesting and there’s also some interesting IOS apps (see below - some I believe allow you to export the midi files), but have not tried these out personally yet...

-My picks for Music theory midi composing tools,assistants, & fx-
-mixed in key plug ins (& captain plugins)
-scalar
-cthulhu (xfer)
(Have not tried a lot of the ones I mention below as the first time I was exposed to them was this post: but it sounds like there are some good ones - find the list below)

-Picks for IOS midi tools/instruments-
Arp
Xynthesizr

AI software for music:
Most notable AI music programs right now, in my opinion:
Orb Composer
AIVA
Amper Music (probably best for non-musicians because of the licensing and no midi files are exported to the user, only audio files and users don’t own copyright to music just a license of use, that being said it generates pretty good music already)

Other AI music programs:
Rapidcomposer
Cognitone Synfire
Melody Sauce by evabeat
MuseNet
Googles magneta tools (“neural” synthesis)
Jukedeck (recently acquired by TikTok app)
Expert Music
Melodrive
Chromes song maker
Melodies music
Algotunes
Tech stars music accelerator program
Sinfonia
Asaii
Landr
Popgun
IBM Watson Beat AI
Endel
Melomics
Chordpunch
Real-time music solutions
Computoser
Musico
Boomy
Alysia
Ecrett
Salu133445
Wotja
Bloom
Generative.fm
Band-in-a-box
Lonofi
Wolfram tones
Mubert
Ludwig by ChessBase
Muzoti
Neural composer
MusGAN
Skygge & Kiesza (artists using/collaborating with AI?)
ChucK (Princeton university)
MorpheuS (Queen Mary university of London)

AI apps I found on IOS:

AI music composition tools on IOS:
Amadeus Code
Humtap
Possible Music
Spliqs
Impro AI - Musico
Song - musico
Stravinski
Wotja - generative ambient music
Melodia
Musicfit
YouCompose
Yating Live Music - AI music
BGEM
Rapto
Casablanca live accompanist (chord AI - real-time chord recognition)
My Pianist - AI accompanist

Music theory midi assistants (not AI - but serve similar tool functions & purposes in composing music):
-‘mixed in key’ plug ins (& captain plugins)
-scalar
-cthulhu (xfer)
-Traktion waveform 9
-sundog song studio
-harmony navigator 2
-Suggester
-chordspace
-chordwarepa
-obelisk by frozenplain
-chordbot app
-chords gen app
-nora by squareheads
-riffer
-loomer architech
-J74 progressive
-Instachord
-autotheory 5
-mucoder tonespace (free)
*sorry if any of these are AI, please let me know, using my best guess here

Midi generation
-xronomorphh
-differentdrummer
-dialogue audio cinebient
-Kirnu cream
-cable guys midi shaper
-midi fire
-GOMP
-Thesys
-Recompose I2C8
-Recompose Liquid notes
-Kameleono
-EZKeys (*when used to manipulate midi)
-reaktor midi fxs
-kontakt instruments (?)
-stochas (probability midi)
-codeFN42 (midi tools)
-bluearp (free)
-Piz (not sure what this is?)
-phrazer (halion sonic)
-szcz kontakt record midi script
-sugarbytes guitarist
-realitones fingerpick
-autotonic
-Phrasendrescher
-Midi Stream
-Noatikl
-midi looper
-HY-SeqCollection (& MPS2)
-Sonic academy’s Ana 2
-B-step sequencer
-Tremor
-Polyphemus
-Riff generation combo package (good for feeding chords and generating guitar or synth material)
-softstep & artwonk
-hypercyclic
-fluid harmonics
-arpology
-hornet plugins Euclidean rhythm generator
-Hatefish RhyGenerator
-Reaktor toms midi mangler
-flow motion
-Mdrummer
-_underscore_ (kontakt)
-Insession
-audio damage axon
-soundhelix
-ripchord (free)
-Concentric by quintron
-chordpotion
-Cubasis
-patterning
-reason midi plugins (midi delta computer)
-cracklefield (?)
-harvest sequencer
-sugar bytes obscurium
-cherry audios voltage modular
-RandArp
-plethora
-raxntrax
-aparillo
-twisted tools plugins
-kontakt SARP
-MFX (cakewalk)
-IIRC LOGIC
-Jamstix
-home grown audio midi fx
-Usine hollyhock 3
-temper http://www.angryredplanet.com/temper/
-infinity https://squest.com/Products/Infinity/In ... fects.html
-Arpado

Programs & products that have built in music theory midi tools:
-komplete keyboards, ableton push, maschine, etc.
-Daws (most daws have At least some midi tools: (Cubase, Logic, ableton, FL, Reaper, Reason, Etc.)
-synthesizers and samplers often have various midi capabilities (ranging from simple to complex) & also audio “mangling abilities”, although some synths are not offered as fx plugins or do not have audio input options, while other synths do offer this. The various ways to connect hardware and software synths, and other tools to interface with each other for various effects is basically infinite, but good to remember that there are things like this that you can do with stuff you probably already have, if you are creative with how you use it.

Pitch detection:
-Melodyne
-Zynaptiq pitchmap
-nectar 3
-variaudio (cubase)
-Autotune

More IOS music APPs (I think most are on both
iPhone and iPad, but not
exactly sure, just check the
App Store):
Arp
Xynthesizr
Gestrument
Dedalus
Thumbjam

Hope that helps in organizing this post a little bit more so it’s digestible. Maybe one day KVR will have an organizing AI bot so won’t have to do this by hand-it will find all the keywords and phrases and organize them into a list with all relevant data-yes that will be the day eh.

Also be interested to hear more from others on stuff not included on this list and your favorites that you have used both now and if stuff comes out in the future and you try it.

————————————————————————————OT?
Other stuff that I am not sure if fits this post, may be somewhat off topic because it’s not always midi stuff per se, so you can skip these if you want:

Apps -
Not sure if these Apps all fit the criteria Of what people are looking for in this post, but I’ll include some as they maybe will have some features that may interest people in this thread:
Garageband
Beatwave
Launchpad
Chordpolypad
Dm1
Imaschine
Caustic
Dot melody
Glitchbreaks
Virtual ANS
Quincy
Best slice pro
Beat spiral
iMPC
Hook
Musyc
Stepsynth
Seek beats
Groovemaker
Melodica
Triqtraq
Rhythm
Robovox
Necklace
Ney
Funkbox drums
Arpist
Cdn Composer
Loopy HD
Keezy
Voice synth
Nature-oscillator
50in1 piano
Ricepad
Protein dk
I am synth
I am sampler
Animoog
Geosynth
&
Augmented reality apps:
Musicbrush
Piascore
Year one
Detune
Piano 3D
Tonic
Tempo


Glitch/Mangling audio fx:
Looperator
Movement by output
Effectrix
Glitch2
Trash2 (and a ridiculous amount of other distortions - E.g. ohmicide, elektron analog heat, decapitator, etc. digital & analog - for “sonic” mangling)
-NI Freak, phasis, flair, dirt, bite, driver, Reaktor VHS (free ensemble)
-chipcrusher2
-RC 20 retro color
-waves j37, Kramer tape
-izotope vinyl
-shaperbox 2, pancake 2, halftime
-loopmash fx (cubase)
-lfotool (Xfer) *this has midi functions for sure
-transient master
-ozone 9 master rebalance
-hybridtwo project chaos (amazing loop creator)
-if you use 8dio instruments that have cool chaos functions with fxs processing that really can mangle the audio

(*honestly you can mangle audio w/tools like eq, compression, reverb, and all other fxs, but they are not the first thing you think of for that specific task so I will leave those out)

-My picks for Glitch/audio mangling-
Looperator
Movement by output
Trash2 (and a ridiculous amount of other distortions e.g. ohmicide, elektron analog heat, decapitator, etc. - digital & analog - for “sonic” mangling)
-NI Freak, phasis, flair, dirt, bite, driver, Reaktor VHS (free ensemble)
-RC 20 retro color
-waves j37, Kramer tape
-shaperbox 2, pancake 2, halftime
-project chaos by HybridTwo

These are programs that use AI for various purposes:
Pandora
Shazam
Spotify (flow machines - Francios Pachet)
Apple Music (I think apple must be using AI?)
Facebook/Instagram
Twitter
(Other socials...)
Muzeek
Brain.FM
etc...

Also check out the AI mixing and mastering fxs - from izotope: Ozone & Nuetron &
search on YouTube for AI music discussion by Daniel James on his channel and Troels from 8Dio on the 8Dio channel, you can also watch ted talks by the developers of AIVA & Amper music which are highly interesting! Andrew Huang has also posted a video showing the audio synthesis of magneta (I think it was this one...), where the audio is synthesized together from different sounds to create a new form of AI synthesis). The developer of ”flow machines” also has a Ted talk you can check out. Anyways, AI is highly relevant to this post and conversation especially going into the future I believe.
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David
KVRian
1264 posts since 5 Jan, 2003 from Brookings, OR

Re: Your fave MIDI fx, arp, mapper, mangler, generator, chorder, controller, utility. VST or MFX

Post Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:01 pm

wow. !!

QUITE a list, thank you! Lots I haven't heard of before…

I think any purely AUDIO manglers (eg Trash, AFAIK, and many others in your category "Glitch/Mangling") are a bit OT for this thread, but if clearly identified as such, I'm happy to see them. The problem comes when you go looking for MIDI features that aren't there and wind up thinking it must be because you didn't look hard enough!:) Eg., I'm back looking for any MIDI out from Aparillo now that I've seen it in your list as well as in a previous post here, despite having already confirmed that there aren't any for myself back then! But, jeez, DID I miss 'em???

tatanka
KVRian
1200 posts since 13 Jan, 2014

Re: Your fave MIDI fx, arp, mapper, mangler, generator, chorder, controller, utility. VST or MFX

Post Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:04 pm

Wow treesineden, what a starting post :)

Absolutely great, I thought I know most of the stuff in this area but would have never been able to put it in such an amazing and useful list :o

This is really helpful !

Kalamata Kid
KVRAF
3991 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Re: Your fave MIDI fx, arp, mapper, mangler, generator, chorder, controller, utility. VST or MFX

Post Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:46 pm

treesinedenn,

My list of thing to do got seriously longer.
Thanks!
No, I really mean thanks.
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Kalamata Kid
KVRAF
3991 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Re: Your fave MIDI fx, arp, mapper, mangler, generator, chorder, controller, utility. VST or MFX

Post Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:33 pm

Interesting:
My Pianist - AI accompanist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZE1bfPtvZo
then feed the accompaniment as the source.

Hope he makes an app that uses chords.
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