The 10%

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donkey tugger
Boss Lovin' DR
6309 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Post Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:29 pm

Chances are if you've made it this far, you're in it....

https://www.musicradar.com/news/90-of-b ... ays-fender

Interesting figures too about the average spend on geetar gear.. :scared:

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Forgotten
KVRAF
5878 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere

Re: The 10%

Post Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:41 pm

I wonder if Gibson agrees with those stats... :hihi:

kvotchin
KVRist
241 posts since 9 Aug, 2018

Re: The 10%

Post Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:24 pm

Of course. Most people will lose interest in any *voluntary* pastime that is difficult, unless it is giving them something back in the immediate / extreme short term. Money or status, for example.

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The Noodlist
KVRian
1291 posts since 16 Aug, 2017 from UK

Re: The 10%

Post Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:19 am

Age might also play a part. I found it easy to keep committed when learning in my early 20's in the late 1980's. No distractions with computers or mobiles and they were 4 TV channels.
Then, it was either lessons or buy books and magazines. Now with the internet, there's access to backing tracks, lessons and unlimited resources instantly.
I've known older learners who gave up at the basic chord learning stage, patience required.
Last edited by The Noodlist on Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:27 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Currently trying to turn noise into music. :neutral:

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donkey tugger
Boss Lovin' DR
6309 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Re: The 10%

Post Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:04 am

The Noodlist wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:19 am
Age might also play a part. I found it easy to keep committed when learning in my late teens in the late 1980's. No distractions with computers or mobiles and they were 4 TV channels.
Then, it was either lessons or buy books and and magazines. Now with the internet, there's access to backing tracks, lessons and unlimited resources instantly.
I've known older learners who gave up at the basic chord learning stage, patience required.

I think that's a fair comment. Also, the price of guitars has relatively gone down so it's not such a big investment as it was. When I were a lad (ey up) it took me bloody ages to scrimp and save to get my first half-decent guitar, so there was no way I was giving it up without having a bloody good go..

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vurt
addled muppet weed
54603 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: The 10%

Post Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:07 am

doesnt mean the 10% are any better at playing than the 90 that give up. not if im counted in the 10 :lol:

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vurt
addled muppet weed
54603 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: The 10%

Post Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:08 am

i just wish more of the give ups where idiots and i could snag a top end guitar for the price of a few beers :hihi:

fese
KVRian
1010 posts since 14 Sep, 2004 from $HOME

Re: The 10%

Post Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:42 am

vurt wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:07 am
doesnt mean the 10% are any better at playing than the 90 that give up. not if im counted in the 10 :lol:
Yeah, exactly. I’m in the 10% but I’m still shit... maybe I need to buy more gear?

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vurt
addled muppet weed
54603 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: The 10%

Post Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:58 am

fese wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:42 am
vurt wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:07 am
doesnt mean the 10% are any better at playing than the 90 that give up. not if im counted in the 10 :lol:
Yeah, exactly. I’m in the 10% but I’m still shit... maybe I need to buy more gear?
worked for me :)

AnX
KVRAF
5728 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Re: The 10%

Post Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:20 am

I can play guitar on my sinthesiser better than I can on my geetar

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vurt
addled muppet weed
54603 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: The 10%

Post Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:22 am

AnX wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:20 am
I can play guitar on my sinthesiser better than I can on my geetar
dont say things like that, donks will have a coronary :o

AnX
KVRAF
5728 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Re: The 10%

Post Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:47 am

vurt wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:22 am
AnX wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:20 am
I can play guitar on my sinthesiser better than I can on my geetar
dont say things like that, donks will have a coronary :o
i doubt another one will do him any harm :hihi:

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farlukar
KVRAF
6251 posts since 18 Apr, 2004

Re: The 10%

Post Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:36 am

I've been a beginner for 30 years now.

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cptgone
KVRAF
5319 posts since 1 Aug, 2003

Re: The 10%

Post Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:02 am

Then there's the stepping stone effect.
It starts with cannabis, then you buy a guitar, an amp, pedals, cables, a DAW, synths, stands, more cables, a kazoo, virtual hardware, devirtualized software, broadband internet, free porn.

It's all worth it in the end, you see.

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Forgotten
KVRAF
5878 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere

Re: The 10%

Post Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:24 am

vurt wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:22 am
AnX wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:20 am
I can play guitar on my sinthesiser better than I can on my geetar
dont say things like that, donks will have a coronary :o
I didn’t think he would like Mexican beer... :shrug:

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