KVR Audio

overhishead · Post by **overhishead** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:07 am

I can't seem to get all the SFZ functions to work in Zampler. Is that because the SFZ functions are not fully implemented in Zampler?

I'm trying to loop a .WAV continuously on sustain and it doesn't seem to work. I know that Zampler isn't touted as an SFZ player but I did notice that SFZ files that loop on other players don't loop in Zampler. Can someone else confirm?

Zampler could really be the best SFZ player for my purposes, and I'd have a lot more fun developing sounds for it if I could figure this out.

PTV · Post by **PTV** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:09 pm

According to their website Zampler only supports 7 opcodes (including loop_start loop_end that you have to set manually in the sfz file if you want the files to loop), so while it's great as a Zampler libraries player, it's useless as an SFZ player. If you want an SFZ player with synth like controls there are much better options, such as TX16Wx (free) or Renoise Redux (commercial). Or you can learn to write SFZs and add controls, envelopes and modulations in the SFZ file itself and then play it with Sforzando

overhishead · Post by **overhishead** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:49 pm

aha, I didn't realize the opcodes on Beat's site were _all_ the opcodes. Thanks for the tips!

MutantHero · Post by **MutantHero** » Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:24 am

https://youtu.be/u4_lwiLS5hw

overhishead · Post by **overhishead** » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:06 pm

MutantHero wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:24 am https://youtu.be/u4_lwiLS5hw

great zeitgeist post!

I also found out just by a freak chance that you can embed loop points in a WAV file and that's how you do it for Zampler! I used Wavosaur and it worked!

MutantHero · Post by **MutantHero** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:45 pm

Absolutely.

I have married myself to creating my SFZ's in HighLife and them opening in Zampler. It's working for me. I can set the beginning and end of the loop with precision using HighLife's zoom feature!

I have been changing my root note in text editing, if I've got some notes firing from Zampler's keyboard that are way too low or high. You have to have set a root note other that standard (C something ... I can't remember) for HighLife to create the root note text in the SFZ at all however. No big deal.

HighLife will also set up split keyboard SFZ's for Zampler, I have done a couple split keyboard patches. Those are also easy and handy to edit in notepad, the upper and lower keys. You can set up their loops if they have any right in HighLife. Although for drums where you have one 1-shot sample per key, the previously mentioned utility is far superior.

MutantHero · Post by **MutantHero** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:49 pm

You're saying Waveosaur has loop editing? As if I need one more piece of software but I am going to try it right now LOL. Audacity doesn't have that.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:51 pm

Audacity doesn't have a lot of things.

Most notably no markers... which is... like... complete BS.

MutantHero · Post by **MutantHero** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:41 pm

chk071 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:51 pm Audacity doesn't have a lot of things. Most notably no markers... which is... like... complete BS.

Does Waveosaur have the noise removal in Audacity?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:50 pm

I'm not familiar with Wavosaur, but, it seems like you need third party plugins for that: https://www.wavosaur.com/tutorials/how- ... -noise.php

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:07 pm

chk071 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:50 pm I'm not familiar with Wavosaur, but, it seems like you need third party plugins for that: https://www.wavosaur.com/tutorials/how- ... -noise.php

Yes, the free ReaFIR (one of the free tools originally made for Reaper but also totally usable independently).

By the way, Wavosaur has an excellent VST support, being able to add any VST effect to enhance the abilities of Wavosaur. It is in the menu "Tools" at the top of the Wavosaur application.

MutantHero · Post by **MutantHero** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:08 pm

Sticking with HighLife for my WAV looping. I can play a long note on repeat in my DAW, and that keeps HighLife audio going, while I set the loop points visually and then fine tune by ear, which for me is best. Interface is micro and in that it leaves a bit to be desired.

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:27 pm

You're right.

And if you don't know Bliss (from DiscoDSP the same developer than HighLife, but not free) it is even yet better. But if HighLife is enough to solve all your problems, that's perfect.

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:26 am

And I also just replied to your question about the loops in Audacity in the comments on the Audacity KVR product page.

The answer of your question is here:
Tutorial - Looping - Audacity Manual

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