ReFx Nexus 3 (N3) Finally here!
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- KVRAF
- 5420 posts since 25 Jan, 2007
FWIW - I have a fair few Nexus expansions from over the years and I'm perfectly ok with paying an upgrade if its significant. Grace periods are commonplace, and I'm ok with them too. I get that some others might not agree. There we go.
Anyone else getting nervous of the lack of mention of the browser?
Anyone else getting nervous of the lack of mention of the browser?
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- KVRAF
- 13078 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica
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- KVRAF
- 2905 posts since 13 Apr, 2008 from Charleston, SC
It appears the trade for expansions is an option. I would not jump to the conclusion that the plugin becomes NFR...especially since it would make no sense to trade in a license for expansions that would be useless without the plug.
So no. It is not nfr.
So no. It is not nfr.
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- KVRer
- 14 posts since 4 Jan, 2016
cant wait for somone to make hardware for this
- Banned
- 10732 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
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steve.lindqvist steve.lindqvist https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=434023
- KVRist
- 246 posts since 20 Jan, 2019
Do you mean a dedicated controller or a standalone hardware unit?
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- KVRist
- 112 posts since 13 Aug, 2019
I don't get it either. At least considering that newer expansions will only work with N3.Astralv wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:52 am I do not agree with the pricing that discriminates against older customers who over the years spent a lot of money paying for ridiculously expansive expansions. So if I spent $1000 and a new guy just bought Nexus 2, he should get $50 discount because- why exactly?
So basically when a current customer likes a new expansion, they will have to pay the expansion AND the update in order to enjoy it.
- KVRian
- 1421 posts since 14 Apr, 2016 from Germany
I really don't get what do you mean by that?thejonsolo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:49 pm It appears the trade for expansions is an option. I would not jump to the conclusion that the plugin becomes NFR...especially since it would make no sense to trade in a license for expansions that would be useless without the plug.
So no. It is not nfr.
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steve.lindqvist steve.lindqvist https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=434023
- KVRist
- 246 posts since 20 Jan, 2019
No, I did't. You can't ignore the fact that from version 2 up to 2.7.4 all updates were free as well. This should be noticed in your comparison. Things like the 64-Bit version, addition of the impulse response reverb, new photo-realistic GUI, new modulation destinations, improved fx functions, more oscillators, faster loading of presets, performance enhancements, several bug fixes, enhanced mix page (tabs), MIDI enhancements, constant updates for newer (more complex) expansion and so on... And not to mention all the comprehensive freebie expansions (Advent, Christmas, Halloween, Chiptunes, Digital legends and others) over the years - all for free for Nexus owners. As I'm writing this I notice how generous reFX actually is, even though they're always labeled greedy...m-ac wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:22 pmYou misunderstood my point, I meant omni 2.5 and avenger 1.5 were/are free, when the devs could have easily charged for them and named them v3.0 etc.steve.lindqvist wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:40 pmNot quite correct. Avenger 2.0 will be charged (full version number). I also payed twice for upgrades to Spectrasonics. From Atmosphere to Omnisphere v1 and then from Omnisphere v1 to v2 (which is over $150 just from v1 to v2!).
But I completely agree on this point: Just give me that damn HiDPI GUI and take my money!
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steve.lindqvist steve.lindqvist https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=434023
- KVRist
- 246 posts since 20 Jan, 2019
If you exchange your second car for a motorcycle, then your second car will not become NFR, but you simply "exchanged" it.mladi wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:04 pmI really don't get what do you mean by that?thejonsolo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:49 pm It appears the trade for expansions is an option. I would not jump to the conclusion that the plugin becomes NFR...especially since it would make no sense to trade in a license for expansions that would be useless without the plug.
So no. It is not nfr.
If you have two licenses you can sell the second one OR trade it against expansions, simple.
- KVRAF
- 2905 posts since 13 Apr, 2008 from Charleston, SC
Yup that ^^^.
What intrigues me is the exchange idea...is it merely if you have an extra license, or would it apply to trading sound packs? Their email said they were "implementing an exchange program". That sounds much bigger than applying to a handful of people with more than one license.
What intrigues me is the exchange idea...is it merely if you have an extra license, or would it apply to trading sound packs? Their email said they were "implementing an exchange program". That sounds much bigger than applying to a handful of people with more than one license.
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steve.lindqvist steve.lindqvist https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=434023
- KVRist
- 246 posts since 20 Jan, 2019
Then there is the question how many packages you really get for one license.thejonsolo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:36 pm Yup that ^^^.
What intrigues me is the exchange idea...is it merely if you have an extra license, or would it apply to trading sound packs? Their email said they were "implementing an exchange program". That sounds much bigger than applying to a handful of people with more than one license.
Regarding the old vs new expansion exchange I can't imagine that this will be possible, as that would call the entire business model into question. I assume that this will be only possible for full Nexus licenses.
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david.beholder david.beholder https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=159839
- KVRAF
- 1865 posts since 13 Sep, 2007
I see Urs is eating well, he has increased from 2 to 3 over last years. ))
With respect.
Murderous duck!
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- KVRian
- 1045 posts since 18 Dec, 2007
LOL, like I said, you're completely missing my point. I'm NOT saying refx are greedy, you've taken my post completely out of context, which was: Someone said u-he were great for offering free upgrades. I said spectrasonics and vengeance were too, as omni 2.5 and avenger 1.5 could easily be charged updates.steve.lindqvist wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:10 pmNo, I did't. You can't ignore the fact that from version 2 up to 2.7.4 all updates were free as well. This should be noticed in your comparison. Things like the 64-Bit version, addition of the impulse response reverb, new photo-realistic GUI, new modulation destinations, improved fx functions, more oscillators, faster loading of presets, performance enhancements, several bug fixes, enhanced mix page (tabs), MIDI enhancements, constant updates for newer (more complex) expansion and so on... And not to mention all the comprehensive freebie expansions (Advent, Christmas, Halloween, Chiptunes, Digital legends and others) over the years - all for free for Nexus owners. As I'm writing this I notice how generous reFX actually is, even though they're always labeled greedy...m-ac wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:22 pmYou misunderstood my point, I meant omni 2.5 and avenger 1.5 were/are free, when the devs could have easily charged for them and named them v3.0 etc.steve.lindqvist wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:40 pmNot quite correct. Avenger 2.0 will be charged (full version number). I also payed twice for upgrades to Spectrasonics. From Atmosphere to Omnisphere v1 and then from Omnisphere v1 to v2 (which is over $150 just from v1 to v2!).
But I completely agree on this point: Just give me that damn HiDPI GUI and take my money!