Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

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Cyforce
KVRAF
2115 posts since 2 Feb, 2009 from Germany

Post Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:03 pm

In some points quite a nice synth, but this pricing model is mhmm difficult i think. Labelling a plugin for such price (basicly same class as Serum, DIVA etc) and than running half of the time a 80-94% off promotion, makes even a solid good synth looking like half-freebie instead of a quality product :/

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KVRian
1420 posts since 23 Jun, 2006 from Hungary

Re: Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

Post Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:12 pm

I suppose why is this marketing : the synth plugin market is crowded, and there's small place for a new synth...
On the other hand
there are some people who don't buy stuff just for the good price, quality also matters.

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KVRAF
2010 posts since 17 Sep, 2016

Re: Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

Post Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:00 pm

Quality matters. The investment in time required to learn a new synth is part of the cost. So low price alone really means nothing. There are some free synths available with much higher quality, and worthy of the time expenditure!
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Re: Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

Post Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:13 pm

So many you couldn't even name one. I sure as hell can't think of one. And seriously, how long does it take to learn a new synth? Half-an-hour? Once you can use one, any other is pretty easy to pick up.
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KVRAF
2010 posts since 17 Sep, 2016

Re: Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

Post Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:59 pm

BONES wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:13 pm
So many you couldn't even name one. I sure as hell can't think of one.
Actually the list is too long to be bothered with repeating info already posted that can easily be found with a Google search! :dog:
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Tj Shredder
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3350 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Re: Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

Post Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:54 pm

How can a google search reveal quality??? You need ears and hands on experience! Any google search will list more crap as good sounding...
I like Unions sound, but it seems paraphonic, which adds even some character...

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Re: Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

Post Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:01 pm

zzz00m wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:59 pm
Actually the list is too long to be bothered with repeating info already posted that can easily be found with a Google search! :dog:
So even after being called out for what is clearly absolute bullshit, you still can't name one. Pathetic.
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KVRian
677 posts since 31 May, 2017

Re: Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

Post Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:10 am

zzz00m wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:00 pm
The investment in time required to learn a new synth is part of the cost.
This is very true, which is why I'm reluctant to buy almost anything at any price since I already have so much that I haven't mastered yet.
But that's exactly the thing that has me interested in Union (more so than the price) is that it seems fairly straightforward and elegantly designed. Something you can quickly get a handle on and that might produce some good results with little effort.
Limited sure; missing some key functionality it looks like, but also quick and somewhat different.

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Faiky
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109 posts since 23 Jun, 2012

Re: Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

Post Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:21 am

Tj Shredder wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:54 pm
How can a google search reveal quality??? You need ears and hands on experience! Any google search will list more crap as good sounding...
I like Unions sound, but it seems paraphonic, which adds even some character...
Union sounds good to you? I don't understand, maybe I have something on my ears.
Even the 32 voices don't make that sound good again.
OSC sounds like LP filter, aliasing, bad algorythms, bad interpolation and moudlation resolution. The effeckte sound like cheap metallic and digital feedback algorithms.

Is anyone here using Union for serious production? Can't imagine, frankly.

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Tj Shredder
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3350 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Re: Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

Post Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:40 am

Ever heard of taste? Its pretty personal... You should not waste your time with stuff you don‘t like...

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KVRAF
2010 posts since 17 Sep, 2016

Re: Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

Post Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:36 am

BONES wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:01 pm
zzz00m wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:59 pm
Actually the list is too long to be bothered with repeating info already posted that can easily be found with a Google search! :dog:
So even after being called out for what is clearly absolute bullshit, you still can't name one. Pathetic.
Well since you seem to be having trouble with the concept, here's a clue to begin with: anything by u-he... :lol:
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9033 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Re: Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

Post Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:43 pm

What, a bunch of cut-down stuff that's designed to sell their big, expensive products? Mostly single oscillator, single filter synths with very few features. Even Tyrell N6, which I quite like, can't hold a candle to Union. They make an interesting comparison, because they are limited in different ways, but ultimately Union has them all covered, easily. So what else you got? Synth 1?
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rj0
KVRist
283 posts since 18 Sep, 2010

Re: Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

Post Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:33 pm

Even GAS only gets so far. At some point, one starts thinking, regardless of how low cost it is, "Will this just become shelf-ware shortly?". If it doesn't really add something new, is it just redundant?

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KVRian
533 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK

Re: Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

Post Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:08 am

This is such a fun little synth. So many instant lovely sounds and all for a fiver. What's not to like? I wish all the purists would quit whining. :tu:
I wonder what happens if I press this button...

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KVRist
73 posts since 1 Nov, 2018

Re: Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

Post Sat Nov 16, 2019 5:34 am

For the money the synth is great, especially when they are gonna update this baby soon. Need some time to become a great synth, but I believe it could be a great one.

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