Synapse Audio Minimoog emulation "The Legend" for VST/AU and RE released!

[mholloway]

The same is true of The Legend, it goes way beyond what any MiniMoog could ever do. It's only held back by that awful filter.

I doubt they sell an emulation of a classic analog synth and ruin it by giving it an "awful filter."

I suppose you simply don't like the Minimoog sound that much and would not be too fond of the hardware, either

It's actually much simpler than that: he's just trying to make his daily quota of "Look at me, Captain Edgelord" posts.

[BONES]

I doubt they sell an emulation of a classic analog synth and ruin it by giving it an "awful filter."

They don't have a choice, the filter in the original MiniMoog was awful so if they are going to make an accurate emulation, they have to put an awful filter in it. The MiniMoog's oscillators were great, its filter was not. That people are so blinded by nostalgia that they can't hear that does my head in. Even Bob Moog admitted that the ladder filter was a compromised design, a low cost expedience rather than something genuinely good.

What makes The Legend worthwhile is that it isn't just a slavish emulation but seeks to offer more. Rich has added some genuinely useful features not found on the original, as well as making it polyphonic, and that makes it more worthwhile than a studio full of real MiniMoogs could ever be.

[Echoes in the Attic]

I'm not a huge fan of a 24db ladder or cascade filter really. But the 12db mode in the Legend is quite good. 24db is still useful for somethings, I just tend to prefer 12db.

[v1o]

Do you have a source for Bob not liking his own filter? And did he what say his ideal filter design was?

[AnX]

except when making acid sounds, I never turn up res when making bass sounds, so no problem with ladder filter here (I use other synths for acid sounds)

[EvilDragon]

Ah, again that diatribe.

Minimoog wouldn't sound like Minimoog if it didn't have that filter. And considering how many iconic sounds it produced, as a whole it sounds phenomenal no matter what you say about the filter. Because, you know, it's okay. It's okay to be wrong. ž


(BTW as far as I can see, there is no oscillator sync in The Legend. The back panel option for osc 3 sync is only for the LO setting, which makes it a tempo-synced LFO, not for the classic hardsync sound - which could actually be had on the Minimoog with a simple modification. Could also have PWM with a bit more complicated mod. )

[AnX]

I think he means sync as in reset.... phase reset/note on.

[EvilDragon]

Then he wouldn't have said "osc sync" but "osc reset", I'd say.

[AnX]

Then he wouldn't have said "osc sync" but "osc reset", I'd say.

whatever, just offering a poss explanation

[BONES]

Do you have a source for Bob not liking his own filter? And did he what say his ideal filter design was?

It was something I saw on Youtube a few years ago, in an interview from the 70s, I think. At the time it had the effect on me of finally being able to understand why I had never really liked the MiniMoog. If I'd known it was something I would later need to trot out in discussions like this, I'd have bookmarked it but I've looked for it more recently and not been able to find it again.

Minimoog wouldn't sound like Minimoog if it didn't have that filter.

Well, here's the thing - who gives a flying fig what a MiniMoog sounds like? Honestly, I can't think of anything less relevant to any aspect of my life or music. I've never seen anyone use one on stage - in the early 80s they only lived in second-hand shops, where they gathered dust because people had discovered much better synths and didn't see any value in keeping their MiniMoog. It's only this ridiculous obsession with the past that permeates a section of the market today that has elevated this thing to any kind of status. To those of us who were around at the time, the MIniMoog's appeal was that it was one of the first portable synths. Nobody bought one because they loved the sound, they bought it because they could gig with it. But honestly, I don't think anyone who was given a choice between a MiniMoog and an MS-20 would have taken more than a few seconds to choose the MS-20, unless maybe they really needed the extra half-octave of keys.

And considering how many iconic sounds it produced

That's the most idiotic thing I have read this week. What the hell is an "iconic sound"? If you want to understand how absurd it is, ask a few people and see how many's first thought is the synth sound from "Jump".

I think he means sync as in reset.... phase reset/note on.

Yes, that's exactly what he means. An absolute must-have for punchy basslines.

[e-crooner]

Thanks for clarifying that when you complained about Legend's "awful filter", you actually meant the Moog hardware. Before your clarification one could get the wrong impression that there was something wrong with the way SA programmed the filter, when in fact they merely created an authentic emulation of the original you happen not to like.

I don't like harsh MM sounds, but I do think that for instance the Rod Temperton and Imagination bass sounds were pretty famous in the 80's.

Even if the filter were awful in technical terms, that doesn't mean it doesn't appeal to people. Same with songs. Some artists record songs they don't like much, but which become hits, and vice versa.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Well, here's the thing - who gives a flying fig what a MiniMoog sounds like? Honestly, I can't think of anything less relevant to any aspect of my life or music. I've never seen anyone use one on stage - in the early 80s they only lived in second-hand shops, where they gathered dust because people had discovered much better synths and didn't see any value in keeping their MiniMoog.

So because Bones didn't see anyone use them in the 80s on stage and alleges they were gathering dust in second-hand shops (both things which may be true) that means they didn't sound good. You know what there were a ton of in the 80s and on stage? DX-7s. By that logic, Bones loves the smooth electric piano tones of a DX-7. Ignore the fact that everyone from Madonna, to Trent Reznor to Dr. Dre (to name just a small few) were using Minimoogs in the studio for bass sounds well into the 80s and 90s. He might as well have said, "who gives a flying fig about Stratocasters I didnt' see any local pub bands playing them in the 80s - those bands had pointy guitars!" Well dude, that doesn't mean Strats don't sound good or people might not want a Strat sound. It's just off topic nonsense to offer your perspective of "my drunken memories of the 80s don't recall seeing it on stage so it must be shit" or whatever other point you're trying to make. This thread is about a Minimoog clone. If you don't give a fig about Minimoogs, then don't waste time and effort posting here. Surely you have something better to do.

[e-crooner]

Was playing around with the Legend demo and managed to make a powerful drum sound, I mean, big drum, the marching band, let's go deaf kind of bass drum
I can't recall it in the demo, but maybe someone with a license likes it...

https://app.box.com/s/z7wv0uguhu1jrtuv3wtty5lcz4jvy522

[XorXisT]

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[Echoes in the Attic]

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Hoping for a synapse Black Friday sale as well.