EvilDragon wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:01 pm
But instead of cluelessly bitching about it, go find one and play it, spend some time with it, this is the only way you can understand.
There is nowhere in Australia, as far as I know, where you can buy a Continuum so there is zero chance of my getting to play with one. But skipping through a few vids on YT doesn't reveal anyone noticing anything special about the way Continuum lets you control the attack. I probably watched 6 or 7 videos and it didn't seem to come up even once. That's kind of why I see your point as "technical bullshit" - until someone explains to you that it's there, you don't even realise that it is. Remember, too, that you can buy three Seaboard Blocks for the pre-order price of one of these things and have 72 keys of 5D touch. Or 4 x Seaboard Rises for the price of the smaller of the two big Continuums. I also didn't see any mention of LIFT on Continuum, is it even supported? If not then Continuum is down two dimensions on Seaboard, making it 40% less useful (or 20% less useful if it's only missing SLIDE).
Whywhy wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:46 pm
The important thing about the Haken vs Roli is the concept: one is a continuous surface, if you hit a note, the start of the note is not a fixed midi note, you have an offset, your fingers position, the other is a piano layout with expression.
Incorrect. By default the Seaboard is a continuous surface and if you don't hit a keywave precisely in the centre, you wont get the right note. You need to adjust the GLIDE sensitivity to get it to sound discrete notes. The trick is to leave enough in there for vibrato but not so much that you have to be too precise in your placement.
SLiC wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:14 am
It seems a bit strange that people, are arguing about if a tiny midi 'controller' is better that a fully blown synth (that can also act as a controller).
Those kinds of distinctions are irrelevant in the face of all the software that comes with your Roli purchase.
Unless 'being small' is your main criteria for section, there is no comparison.
Except that for the pre-order price of Osmose you could have 72 keys of Seaboard Block, which would not be so small. i.e. Roli has expandability on its side.
This is a fully fledged 24 note poly 'synth' with spits and layers (that was selling for $5000 before) designed for MPE from the ground up.
So a lot more restricted than Roli's Equator, then?
This is a good video of the actual synth engine (although I prefer the Osmose way of triggering the engine for the reasons I gave previously, but its essentially the same 'synth' believe)....
Yeah, I've seen it and it didn't seem to have any useful advantage to me to justify the price. Ozmose also seems eye-wateringly expensive. It will be interesting to see how it goes, given that Roli couldn't sell their all-in-one Seaboard Grand at those kinds of prices and discontinued it.