KVR Audio

Demuvi · Post by **Demuvi** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:39 pm

I wish there would be a midi to Chord ARP converter. I feel some Chords a still not possible or maybe i'm to dumb.

Would be nice to change the notes here by mouse up and down also for more than 1 octave.

and we need to hear the tone we set in the arp... even if its just a small sine tone.

tapekiller · Post by **tapekiller** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:00 pm

Caine123 wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:53 pm i think now manuel was driven off :/
dont think anything will change to the CP and the way people see it here. if sales would affect their decision they would already change or offer alternative plans.

I don't think either. Still, if people (paying customers) have to say something about it, they have the right to express their concerns, especially if they are saying that they are not recommending the software or buying expansions anymore.
You don't win new customers with this kind of knee jerk reaction, if someone wasn't going to buy the software they still won't buy it regardless of the protection (and it's actually more likely they would buy it if you don't use third party software, that's also a reason why many bought avenger in the first place).
I'm not aware of any other dev has done this, but all those I know of who got their software cracked haven't changed their copy protection method, or at least they didn't start using third party license managers, or in completely new versions of the program.
Why is it that people keep buying u-he, xfer and khz softwares (among others)? They offer interesting plans like rent to own, and keep their communication at the best, give people who weren't going to pay for their software a reason to buy in, they have a good rep and their products are well placed (youtubers that actually matter make a very good publicity, since people who watch their tutorials get impressed by good sounding products), and so on and on. Avenger isn't even on splice, and there are no testimonials on the website (just for nexus, VMS and sample packs).
Tons of missed opportunities imo.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:22 pm

tapekiller wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:00 pm
Caine123 wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:53 pm i think now manuel was driven off :/
dont think anything will change to the CP and the way people see it here. if sales would affect their decision they would already change or offer alternative plans.
I don't think either. Still, if people (paying customers) have to say something about it, they have the right to express their concerns, especially if they are saying that they are not recommending the software or buying expansions anymore.
You don't win new customers with this kind of knee jerk reaction, if someone wasn't going to buy the software they still won't buy it regardless of the protection (and it's actually more likely they would buy it if you don't use third party software, that's also a reason why many bought avenger in the first place).
I'm not aware of any other dev has done this, but all those I know of who got their software cracked haven't changed their copy protection method, or at least they didn't start using third party license managers, or in completely new versions of the program.
Why is it that people keep buying u-he, xfer and khz softwares (among others)? They offer interesting plans like rent to own, and keep their communication at the best, give people who weren't going to pay for their software a reason to buy in, they have a good rep and their products are well placed (youtubers that actually matter make a very good publicity, since people who watch their tutorials get impressed by good sounding products), and so on and on. Avenger isn't even on splice, and there are no testimonials on the website (just for nexus, VMS and sample packs).
Tons of missed opportunities imo.

Sure i didnt mean i support their decision i mean that money talks.
If ppl would not support=not further buy stuff they would have to get aware why. And also if the unsatisfaction is spread.
So far i dont see that vps would change so it seems the implementation of cm didnt hurt. And new customers dont know the history.

tapekiller · Post by **tapekiller** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:36 pm

Caine123 wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:22 pm
tapekiller wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:00 pm
Caine123 wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:53 pm i think now manuel was driven off :/
dont think anything will change to the CP and the way people see it here. if sales would affect their decision they would already change or offer alternative plans.
I don't think either. Still, if people (paying customers) have to say something about it, they have the right to express their concerns, especially if they are saying that they are not recommending the software or buying expansions anymore.
You don't win new customers with this kind of knee jerk reaction, if someone wasn't going to buy the software they still won't buy it regardless of the protection (and it's actually more likely they would buy it if you don't use third party software, that's also a reason why many bought avenger in the first place).
I'm not aware of any other dev has done this, but all those I know of who got their software cracked haven't changed their copy protection method, or at least they didn't start using third party license managers, or in completely new versions of the program.
Why is it that people keep buying u-he, xfer and khz softwares (among others)? They offer interesting plans like rent to own, and keep their communication at the best, give people who weren't going to pay for their software a reason to buy in, they have a good rep and their products are well placed (youtubers that actually matter make a very good publicity, since people who watch their tutorials get impressed by good sounding products), and so on and on. Avenger isn't even on splice, and there are no testimonials on the website (just for nexus, VMS and sample packs).
Tons of missed opportunities imo.
Sure i didnt mean i support their decision i mean that money talks.
If ppl would not support=not further buy stuff they would have to get aware why. And also if the unsatisfaction is spread.
So far i dont see that vps would change so it seems the implementation of cm didnt hurt. And new customers dont know the history.

I agree, although old customers do, and the opinion of existing customers matters too and I'm not sure if unsatisfied customers make a good publicity.
Even if they know they are buying a synth that uses codemeter now, they also know that at some point if some people manage to get around codemeter and release an illegal copy of avenger, they might have to buy a dongle and change copy protection software again unless an official statement is made about it.
A lot of people bought avenger because it doesn't use a dongle, so that's to keep in mind, and existing customers might have to forfeit new updates if the dongle use actually happens to be used at some point. Just my 2c

msvs · Post by **msvs** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:51 pm

msvs · Post by **msvs** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:52 pm

The Sarge! · Post by **The Sarge!** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:15 pm

msvs wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:51 pm

hmm, this is declared as private"

could/would you change it to public?
or will it be a Xmas surprise-video?

Stefken · Post by **Stefken** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:39 pm

msvs wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:51 pm

Somewhat off topic, but does anyone know how these videos are produced. Real eyecandy. Love to try it myself.

aon · Post by **aon** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:00 pm

msvs wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:52 pm

When will this one and Cinematic 3 be availiable on vps-avenger.com?

The Sarge! · Post by **The Sarge!** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:24 pm

Stefken wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:39 pm
msvs wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:51 pm
Somewhat off topic, but does anyone know how these videos are produced. Real eyecandy. Love to try it myself.

the credit is at the end of these video, so search for this cool dudes in the web (haven´t the link at my fingertips, sorry)

Bansaw · Post by **Bansaw** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:12 pm

Stefken wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:39 pm
msvs wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:51 pm
Somewhat off topic, but does anyone know how these videos are produced. Real eyecandy. Love to try it myself.

The effects are produced in Adobe After Effects or can be done in any VFX application (like Apple Motion) by applying an "audio behaviour" to a parameter (like colour, position etc).
The person who makes these videos employs that method, plus he has access to a very good library of stock footage.
(The vfx can also be done in 'Blender' which is free, but does have a learning curve!)

msvs · Post by **msvs** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:23 pm

RichN · Post by **RichN** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:54 pm

Stefken wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:39 pm
Somewhat off topic, but does anyone know how these videos are produced. Real eyecandy. Love to try it myself.

By the way (and sorry if you have answered it already), are your skins compatible with version 1.5?

Stefken · Post by **Stefken** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:14 pm

RichN wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:54 pm
Stefken wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:39 pm
Somewhat off topic, but does anyone know how these videos are produced. Real eyecandy. Love to try it myself.
By the way (and sorry if you have answered it already), are your skins compatible with version 1.5?

They will soon. I'm probably updating to Avenger 1.5 this weekend. Then I'll update my skins to 1.5

pascal020 · Post by **pascal020** » Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:05 am

msvs wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:23 pm

Great stuff. Instant inspiration for a dark cinematic hybrid orchestral track.

We bought Avenger this week in the xmas sale and are very happy with it. Installing both the software and codemeter went fine on our windows 10 machine. Still no problems today. We will see how future updates will go.

I do agree that the expansion packs are a bit pricey though, but hey don't buy them or wait for sales

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