How do I get out of this chord progression?

[Obsolete317542]

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[Functional]

Eclectus, I get your perspective and in fact you are very correct in pointing out that you've been helpful to OP. But it's equally important that we use the same roman numeral analysis. There's enough problems as is with various nomenclature in roman numeral analysis. And my intention wasn't to scold you, it's just to point out the preferably analysis to modern context - especially because other people read all this too and you probably don't want people to learn wrong practices (while Schenkerian analysis isn't wrong practice, it's not great outside of classical context which this isn't

[telecode]

What do you think this thread is about? It's a person wanting help with their chord progression. Out of all the people in this thread, I'm the only one that listened to their song, gave advice on their chord progression, and was considered to be very helpful by them. Because I helped them solve their problem.

I have found that the solutions to all your problems on KVR is the foes list feature. 99% of the flamers are all muted. (It makes for a simpler and cleaner existence on KVR). janncivil isn't becuase she actually knows her stuff (and much more than me about music) and I have learnt quite a bit from her posts.




As far as the OP's post goes. i fial to understand why he is "trapped" in a progression. There are other ways to get out of a key or progression when just plowing through with more chords. OP can also consider breaks in the music or moving to a new key and then back to the I - I - VI - V progression.

[Milford]

Why were jancivil’s posts removed? I don’t see anything I’d consider rude in the replies. Maybe the replies were edited. I read jancivil’s posts before they were deleted and there was a lot there I wanted to experiment with, but upon my return they were gone.
Re:eclectus, I did try to genuinely help in the first reply, and hit upon something the OP hadn’t tried.

[Forgotten]

Bunch of pedantic old farts. Have you even read the OP? What do you think this thread is about? It's a person wanting help with their chord progression.

I did read the OP, and noted that the poster is learning theory right now - presumably conventional theory, so I think referring to Schenkerian analysis is going to muddy the waters rather than help someone in the process of learning.

If someone wants help, it’s generally accepted that a straightforward answer is being sought rather than a dive into something more advanced than the scope of their question.

[BertKoor]

Why were jancivil’s posts removed?

Me thinks jancivil saw the OP gave an answer to one of the first recipients, but not to her posts. She may have felt offended by being neglected, thus being treated rude by the OP, and thus removed her posts herself.

[Obsolete317542]

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[Forgotten]

What a strange person...

Merry Christmas to you though.

[Functional]

Anyway, you guys can have fun with the Roman numeral analysis circle jerk, I've done my good deed and I'm out of here. If the OP wants help with their arrangement I'm happy to help via PM! (Cause I'm unsubbing and adding a whole new lot to my foe list!)

You should consider adopting roman numeral analysis yourself and join the circlejerk. Sure would be a shame to cause unnecessary tangents in topics with people wondering "Really, all in major?" or "Does that person not know about minor/major distinction in roman numeral analysis?"

But that's up to you.

[jancivil]

Out of all the people in this thread, I'm the only one that listened to their song,

the f**k you are

I deleted what I wrote, but do operate on pure assumption as to what it was.
EDIT: or just lie.

One way or another, OP had no interest in hearing from me so I frankly felt very casting pearls unto swine upon returning, but had scrupulously sorted the fundamental mistake of calling not one but two modes (can’t be both, by definition) which in the long view is the better advice (teach them to fish vs the hand them the one fish and you’re done you are so proudly featuring) and informed the person of their own tonic at “0:55” (B) and so forth.

Everything offered at this point was naturally totally incorrect, since no one can even tell where one is.
So, I can just let the blind lead the blind, no skin off of me.


EG: You, yourself went into something regarding the tonal vii chord, which is just a pretentious rookie mistake if this is the supposed “E Dorian” or “G Lydian”. (The bit I transcribed is in B minor. EG: @ ca. 1:23 it’s an extremely obvious VI VII i in B minor...)

NB., there is no modal anything here. But carry on with the fakery!

[jancivil]

If someone wants help, it’s generally accepted that a straightforward answer is being sought rather than a dive into something more advanced than the scope of their question.

Indeed. Now practice what you preach and start talking on topic. The OP was asking for help with a song they are writing. You are the one going off on a tangent about analysis, and haven't helped them one bit.

Why were jancivil’s posts removed?

Me thinks jancivil saw the OP gave an answer to one of the first recipients, but not to her posts. She may have felt offended by being neglected, thus being treated rude by the OP, and thus removed her posts herself.

They were very long rants about the OP's and my use of uppercase

Liar.

and how the OP was wrong about the modi and other theories. It wasn't about the chord progression the OP got stuck on and it wasn't helpful, it was just off-topic criticisms. She stated herself that she wasn't feeling too well so that might explain why it was as bad as it was. Jancivil removed those posts herself. I think when she stated "rude" that she was referring to her own unhelpful posts.”

Everything in this paragraph is bullshit, past the fact I sorted out the modes mistakes.

Sure, f**k me for providing the real deal here!
You’re just totally full of shit and demonstrate only egoistic arrogance snd a shitty disposition. You’d do well to take Intro to Music Theory at community college or the like, if your errors and failures here are any sign. Or since you can’t determine the tonic, transcribe a song off a record one day.

No, “rude” is for the ignoring, a day goes by and no response, there must be a personal issue.

In the end it’s not my problem a person is doing the oh-so-common take a smattering of information off the internet and assume they have it.

[jancivil]

Posturing incompetent churlish garbage.

[jancivil]

The OP can’t do their own work but has to canvass advice off the net.

Their modi operandi coming in have utterly failed them, but you wouldn’t want to disabuse anyone of that w. basic facts here. If you were even able to. I suppose it was unwise to interfere with this process at all, then.

[elassi]

Let there be Christmas.

Oh wait, it's almost over.

[jancivil]

Anyway, you guys can have fun with the Roman numeral analysis circle jerk

LOL

you mean like in the original post? and your own gormless “VII”...

Helps to have what *i* is first.