Chorus plugin that can output into separate DAW tracks

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Halonmusic
KVRAF
3307 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway

Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:30 am

I guess this could be done in KV Element
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KVRAF
2107 posts since 24 Feb, 2004 from Germany

Re: Chorus plugin that can output into separate DAW tracks

Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:21 am

A chorus is made by sending the signal thru one or more time modulated delay lines and mixing the result back with the original signal before the output.
So what you need is a chorus/mod delay with one delay line which can be set to 100% wet. Place this on several tracks (with different time/mod settings) and send the input signal to all these tracks at once.
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pilau
KVRist
177 posts since 24 May, 2006

Re: Chorus plugin that can output into separate DAW tracks

Post Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:09 am

Ploki wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:23 am
So you want an original and a copy that's slightly modulated and then processed further?

which DAW will you be running this in?
Exactly. Thanks :) I'm currently using Reaper

jens
KVRAF
19809 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia

Re: Chorus plugin that can output into separate DAW tracks

Post Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:15 am

With Hofa System you can do super-easily what you want - however just within System, as it only offers two output channels. Depending on what exactly you want to do, even the free Basic version will suffice.

pilau
KVRist
177 posts since 24 May, 2006

Re: Chorus plugin that can output into separate DAW tracks

Post Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:59 am

Thanks jens! 2 channels is a good start, but ultimately I'd like to try playing around with 3 channels

jens
KVRAF
19809 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia

Re: Chorus plugin that can output into separate DAW tracks

Post Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:15 am

As I said, you can do that - the number of channels is theoretically unlimited - it's just that you have to do all the processing for the individual channels within System.

pilau
KVRist
177 posts since 24 May, 2006

Re: Chorus plugin that can output into separate DAW tracks

Post Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:32 am

Thanks but I'm looking to use VSTs for that

jens
KVRAF
19809 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia

Re: Chorus plugin that can output into separate DAW tracks

Post Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:45 am

But why? Your case is very special and I don't think there are any Chorus (or delay) VSTs that support this directly so there has to be some special routing and I would say it's a lot more convenient to do this in a modular host that has been designed to do things like that.

Of course a modular VST host would be another option.

jens
KVRAF
19809 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia

Re: Chorus plugin that can output into separate DAW tracks

Post Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:50 am

Here, something like that might do the trick:

https://www.kvraudio.com/product/vstfor ... odschynski

Ploki
KVRAF
1537 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Re: Chorus plugin that can output into separate DAW tracks

Post Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:00 am

setup a couple of mono inputs all set to the same input (whatever your input is), then put on a modulation delay on the "chorused" input and set it to 100% wet.
As chorus is nothing more than a +/- 10-30ms variably delayed signal mixed to the original.

No_Use
KVRAF
2421 posts since 13 Mar, 2004

Re: Chorus plugin that can output into separate DAW tracks

Post Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:23 am

pilau wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:09 am
I'm currently using Reaper
Then you don't even necessarily need a modulated delay but can use Reaper's parameter modulation to modulate it.

pilau
KVRist
177 posts since 24 May, 2006

Re: Chorus plugin that can output into separate DAW tracks

Post Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:51 am

No_Use wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:23 am
Then you don't even necessarily need a modulated delay but can use Reaper's parameter modulation to modulate it.
Sounds great :)
I'm quite new to this, do you know if the parameter modulation can be used for live signal tracking or only for as playback automation?

fairplay
KVRist
75 posts since 24 Apr, 2013

Re: Chorus plugin that can output into separate DAW tracks

Post Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:04 am

I wonder if after separate processing of delayed versions phase relationship between them will be broken and chorus effect will cease, but it will be very interesting to try.

pilau
KVRist
177 posts since 24 May, 2006

Re: Chorus plugin that can output into separate DAW tracks

Post Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:28 am

Thanks for everyone's help, I was able to implement something using Reaper's built in plugins! Now for some fun :)
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DJMaytag
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431 posts since 15 Dec, 2012 from Waunakee, Wiscompton

Re: Chorus plugin that can output into separate DAW tracks

Post Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:00 pm

Use Reason and you can do this with ANY plugin, so long as your route your cables correctly.
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