Future of Synthesizers

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KVRAF
6163 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:22 pm

foosnark wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:18 pm
Behringer will clone Jordan Rudess.
dear god no.... :x

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Forgotten
KVRAF
8667 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere

Re: Future of Synthesizers

Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:24 pm

Synthesizers that only work with the application of bodily fluids

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KVRAF
6163 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Re: Future of Synthesizers

Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:25 pm

Forgotten wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:24 pm
Synthesizers that only work with the application of bodily fluids
thats the reason half of mine dont work

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vurt
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59122 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: Future of Synthesizers

Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:27 pm

:lol:

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KVRAF
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Re: Future of Synthesizers

Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:32 pm

:hihi:

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Tj Shredder
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3828 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Re: Future of Synthesizers

Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:37 pm

Elektronisch wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:22 pm
izonin wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 11:55 am
Hey guys!
Wanted to start a broader topic concerning the future of the synthesizers that we use in our productions.

For the last 30 years VA has pretty much dominated both in hardware and in software. I'll just mention a few popular synths.

JP-8000
Virus
Nord Lead
Sylenth1

What do you guys think the trend will be for the next 30 years? Will we see a decline of the subtractive synths, or they will evolve into something new and better? Or maybe reach an iconic status, like the Fender Stratocaster? :)
I wonder how you came up with this "fact" of yours.

I dont see any domination of jp virus and nord leads except in forums like KVR. And then its only more of a legend status, romantised incredible sounding synths that are only talked about.

Yes, this list contains the less interesting part of synth history.
My list:
Moog modular
PPG
Dx7
CZ 101
K 5000

Oh wait this is all last millennium, and no VA at all, only one real analog...
Only granular was added more recently?
I hope inventors will eventually do new unheard stuff...
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nix808
KVRAF
4020 posts since 22 Jul, 2006 from Tasmania, Australia

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Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:38 pm

likwid-cooled SHARCs

-bit late to the party

Nord G2 and Andromeda have got to come up

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CrystalWizard
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1021 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit Sol III

Re: Future of Synthesizers

Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:19 pm

Tj Shredder wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:37 pm
Elektronisch wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:22 pm
izonin wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 11:55 am
Hey guys!
Wanted to start a broader topic ...
...or they will evolve into something new and better? Or maybe reach an iconic status, like the Fender Stratocaster? :)
I wonder how you came up with this "fact" of yours...

Yes, this list contains the less interesting part of synth history.
My list:
Moog modular
PPG
Dx7
CZ 101
K 5000

Oh wait this is all last millennium, and no VA at all, only one real analog...
Only granular was added more recently?
I hope inventors will eventually do new unheard stuff...
Yes, new, unheard stuff, my hope also. I would also like to see advances in PM and additive. Hybrids have potential such as Kaivo, etc. I would like to see “ease of use” become a lesser selling point but that’s not likely in this “one button, ML, soon to be AI” age.
gadgets an gizmos...make noise
https://soundcloud.com/crystalawareness

deastman
KVRAF
7343 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area

Re: Future of Synthesizers

Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:27 pm

Machine learning seems to me to be the way forward, now that most traditional synthesis methods have been explored.

Also: flying cars
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/8" audio input jack.

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Tj Shredder
KVRAF
3828 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

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Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:39 pm

Machine learning will unlikely produce new sounds, as it can only learn from known sounds. And the word traditional means all not most...; - )
Machine learning is interesting though, but on a different level...
To find new sounds needs real creativity.
But listening to most music, it seems recreating the already known is the trend... I would leave that to the machines, they can do it better, though it remains boring...

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KVRist
322 posts since 13 May, 2015

Re: Future of Synthesizers

Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:04 pm

Forgotten wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:24 pm
Synthesizers that only work with the application of bodily fluids
Already been done!

https://www.raingerfx.com/product/minib ... -analyser/

rj0
KVRist
335 posts since 18 Sep, 2010

Re: Future of Synthesizers

Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:20 pm

AI will replace us all (both listeners and creators). :o :hihi:

deastman
KVRAF
7343 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area

Re: Future of Synthesizers

Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:58 pm

Tj Shredder wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:39 pm
Machine learning will unlikely produce new sounds, as it can only learn from known sounds. And the word traditional means all not most...; - )
Machine learning is interesting though, but on a different level...
To find new sounds needs real creativity.
But listening to most music, it seems recreating the already known is the trend... I would leave that to the machines, they can do it better, though it remains boring...
That’s assuming machine learning is trained on one specific type of sound (e.g. French horn) and that it does a perfect job of replication. But what happens when you train it in a mixture of several instruments and yield odd morphing combinations, imperfectly recreated? That’s where the fun begins!
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/8" audio input jack.

psynical
KVRist
142 posts since 16 Jan, 2019 from Portland, Oregon

Re: Future of Synthesizers

Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:05 pm

Tj Shredder wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:39 pm
Machine learning will unlikely produce new sounds
Obviously you've never spent much time playing with ganbreeder. I work mainly in photography and retouching... the images created by machine learning are unlike anything i've ever seen in decades of my profession. Applying the same process to sound will more than likely output similar results.
It's going to take a little while though, since resolution is still an issue with image synthesis.

Elektronisch
KVRAF
3861 posts since 3 Feb, 2010

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Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:14 pm

You already can do new and unheard stuff with everything that is already been out. You just need to be creative, not the synth :-D

Good example wub wub wub dubstep sounds. They couldve been done in 80s or 90s already just there was no such creative mind back then.

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