Is there a pipe organ i can use without kontakt?

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HobbyComposer02
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Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:41 am

Is there a pipe organ i can use without kontakt?
Thank u!

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teilo
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430 posts since 30 Mar, 2008

Re: Is there a pipe organ i can use without kontakt?

Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:50 am

You have two real options.

Check out Organteq for the best physically modeled pipe organ. Not sampled, but fully synthesized. It is only a single instrument, modeled after a Cavaillé-Coll french romantic instrument. To me, Organteq sounds like I'm in the uncanny valley. It tries to model the irregularities of a live instrument, but something about it is just off to my ears. YMMV.

https://www.modartt.com/organteq

Then there is Hauptwerk, which is the most advanced pipe organ software currently available. It is sample based, but no mere sampling engine. It uses various filtering and modeling techniques to represent things like enclosed divisions and tremulants, a wind model which causes pipes to respond differently depending upon how much wind is available in the instrument, a turbulence model, and randomized detuning that corresponds to what one might expect when playing a live instrument on any given day. Many organs are available for Hauptwerk. It comes with one. There are even some excellent free ones available. It uses iLok, but doesn't require a dongle.

https://www.hauptwerk.com/
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HobbyComposer02
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Re: Is there a pipe organ i can use without kontakt?

Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:51 am

Thanks. i know both of them. But i am searching a cheaper pipe organ

Meffy
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Re: Is there a pipe organ i can use without kontakt?

Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:53 am

Hauptwerk is king, though it's kinda expensive for most hobbyists.

There's also a free soundfont called "Jeux 1.4" if I remember right. Plogue has a free soundfont player, Sforzando.

https://www.plogue.com/products/sforzando.html

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teilo
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Re: Is there a pipe organ i can use without kontakt?

Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:53 am

HobbyComposer02 wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:51 am
Thanks. i know both of them. But i am searching a cheaper pipe organ
Might have been a good idea to mention that when you asked.

This is vastly inferior to the current version of Hauptwerk, but incredibly good for free: https://sourceforge.net/projects/ourorgan/

This is basically equivalent to Hauptwerk 1.0, and can even play old, non-encrypted Hauptwerk 1.0 ODFs. It is not a plugin, though, so you would have to do some routing magic with a DAW to make it work.

There are several free instruments available that will work with Grand Orgue: https://sourceforge.net/p/ourorgan/samp ... le%20Sets/
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HobbyComposer02
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Re: Is there a pipe organ i can use without kontakt?

Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:12 am

Thx. A plugin would pe perfect. I saw sonokinetic's toccata. for 60€. But paying does not work

mcbpete
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1681 posts since 24 Jun, 2006 from London, England

Re: Is there a pipe organ i can use without kontakt?

Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:19 am

Until Organteq, my organ playback of choice was Jeux d'orgues 2 soundfont ( http://www.jeuxdorgues.com/files/jeuxdo ... ndfont.rar ) using any free soundfont player (eg. Juicysfplugin - https://github.com/Birch-san/juicysfplugin) ran through any decent reverb vst

NKF
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Re: Is there a pipe organ i can use without kontakt?

Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:35 am

HobbyComposer02 wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:12 am
Thx. A plugin would pe perfect. I saw sonokinetic's toccata. for 60€. But paying does not work
Have you tried a valid cc

HobbyComposer02
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Re: Is there a pipe organ i can use without kontakt?

Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:43 am

Valid cc? What's that?

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EvilDragon
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Re: Is there a pipe organ i can use without kontakt?

Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:06 pm

Credit card.

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MadDogE134
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335 posts since 26 Nov, 2007

Re: Is there a pipe organ i can use without kontakt?

Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:31 pm

sampletank's pipe organ sounds pretty ominous imo

Eirikur
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99 posts since 24 Feb, 2004

Re: Is there a pipe organ i can use without kontakt?

Post Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:43 pm

Lots of serious people use Jeux d'orgues 2, the soundfont. Free. Works in any soundfont player. I think you should try it.

dmbaer
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1404 posts since 11 Nov, 2009 from Northern CA

Re: Is there a pipe organ i can use without kontakt?

Post Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:48 pm

https://www.bestservice.com/organum_venezia.html

Very nice-sounding organ, a large but not a gargantuan instrument, no Kontakt required, and reasonably priced ($89 - but will go on sale from time to time).

Meffy
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Re: Is there a pipe organ i can use without kontakt?

Post Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:50 pm

I should mention that Jeux sounds a lot better with reverb added. In fact, with enough reverb even very synth-y sounds can end up sounding like a big church pipe organ.

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Re: Is there a pipe organ i can use without kontakt?

Post Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:00 pm

Maybe not the best....but it's a VSTi......and it's free.

Church Organ 2nd

http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?id=622
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