What are some soft synths with preset morphing?

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experimental.crow
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Post Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:12 am

might i suggest you look into 'cantabile' ?..
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Re: What are some soft synths with preset morphing?

Post Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:38 am

muki wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:03 am
good old oddity 2
https://www.gforcesoftware.com/products/oddity2
That one weirdly is only menu based in terms of selecting the preset to morph to, so I still don't understand how that is useful.

I'm looking forward to when NewSonicarts implements morphing between it's snapshots, as has been hinted to. It would be nice to Kore style snapshot morphing again.
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.jon
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Re: What are some soft synths with preset morphing?

Post Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:09 am

Reaktor.

ravasb
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Re: What are some soft synths with preset morphing?

Post Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:16 am

empphryio wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:18 am
ravasb wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:02 am
Pretty old, but still sounds great and is 32 and 64. It's also free.

https://www.greenoak.com/crystal/dnld2.html
I used to use that. Don't recall it morphing exactly.. Thought the volume could just be automated to go between patches? I could be wrong.
It has a very cool function called patch breeding.

empphryio
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Re: What are some soft synths with preset morphing?

Post Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:39 am

ravasb wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:16 am
empphryio wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:18 am
ravasb wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:02 am
Pretty old, but still sounds great and is 32 and 64. It's also free.

https://www.greenoak.com/crystal/dnld2.html
I used to use that. Don't recall it morphing exactly.. Thought the volume could just be automated to go between patches? I could be wrong.
It has a very cool function called patch breeding.
Thanks for your suggestion. Fyi that isn't what I'm looking for. I want the sound gradually changing as it's playing. Its patch breeding could also be called morphing but isn't remotely what I mean. Sorry I wasn't clear enough.

I wonder how many of the other suggestions are based on this misunderstanding....

recursive one
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Re: What are some soft synths with preset morphing?

Post Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:04 am

Most synths with a mod matrix or drag and drop assignment allow you to map whatever parameters to modwheel or macro knobs, so tweak these and you'll be getting essentially that
empphryio wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:39 am
the sound gradually changing as it's playing.
Or did I misunderstand your question too?
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empphryio
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Re: What are some soft synths with preset morphing?

Post Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:12 am

recursive one wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:04 am
Most synths with a mod matrix or drag and drop assignment allow you to map whatever parameters to modwheel or macro knobs, so tweak these and you'll be getting essentially that
empphryio wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:39 am
the sound gradually changing as it's playing.
Or did I misunderstand your question too?
I'm very much aware of that.

Thanks to all responses. This will keep me busy a while.

recursive one
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Re: What are some soft synths with preset morphing?

Post Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:32 am

empphryio wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:12 am
recursive one wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:04 am
Most synths with a mod matrix or drag and drop assignment allow you to map whatever parameters to modwheel or macro knobs, so tweak these and you'll be getting essentially that
empphryio wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:39 am
the sound gradually changing as it's playing.
Or did I misunderstand your question too?
I'm very much aware of that.

Thanks to all responses. This will keep me busy a while.
I demoed MorphoX a while back while it was still around. From my memory some presets indeed changed in a very drastic way when I tweaked that "morphwheel" but it thought it was just how the presets were programmed. I think any synth with decent modmatrix can do something like that, can't it? Or was there more to it in MorphoX than just clever assignments?

I'd suggest trying out synths having few macro knobs, Serum, Spire, Massive X, Rapid.
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Meffy
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Re: What are some soft synths with preset morphing?

Post Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:35 am

Examigan wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:19 am
Minimonsta
Seconded. You can set up to twelve patches on the leftmost octave of keys, then press one to morph to that patch.

Velocity-sensitive, too — low velocity gives a slow morph, high velocity, fast morph. I think (not certain, and can't test it now) you can release the key before morphing is complete to stop at an intermediate stage.

IIRC this feature was borrowed from OhmBoyz' Symptohm:Melohman, so there's another.

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mcnelson
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Re: What are some soft synths with preset morphing?

Post Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:54 am

Doesn't Imageline's Harmor let you morph between A & B parts (I know, not strictly speaking 'presets')?

SonicCharge Microtonic let's you morph between two states / parts too, but that's a drum synth.
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Re: What are some soft synths with preset morphing?

Post Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:39 am

mcnelson wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:54 am
Doesn't Imageline's Harmor let you morph between A & B parts (I know, not strictly speaking 'presets')?
I'm pretty sure those are just two layers that can be cross-faded. No different than changing the levels. No parameters change.
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Re: What are some soft synths with preset morphing?

Post Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:03 am

Echoes in the Attic wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:39 am
mcnelson wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:54 am
Doesn't Imageline's Harmor let you morph between A & B parts (I know, not strictly speaking 'presets')?
I'm pretty sure those are just two layers that can be cross-faded. No different than changing the levels. No parameters change.
Yeah, my bad, it's just a mix :(
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Re: What are some soft synths with preset morphing?

Post Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:14 am

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zerocrossing
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Re: What are some soft synths with preset morphing?

Post Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:25 am

Examigan wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:19 am
Minimonsta
Yeah, all the Ohm Force (which some became GForce...) synths have that morphing ability.

https://www.ohmforce.com/ViewCategory.d ... ory=Synths

I’m not sure what really happened to Ohm Force, but I do love some of their plugins.
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nachenko
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Re: What are some soft synths with preset morphing?

Post Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:42 pm

If I remember properly, Monique by Monoplugs had morphing as one of its core features.

http://monique.monoplugs.com/en
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