Upcoming Synapse OB-Xa: Obsession

[PAK]

Oh don't worry all the controls are still 32-bit float

Internal processing resolution. The plugin can choose to expose that or a lower res where it'll then internally smooth between values (to avoid stepping). I checked and they have indeed lowered this to 256 steps exposed to host automation for everything. Back in early 2017 the filter and LFO had the full value exposed. Though this would've only been accessible via the automation lane and host-automation based hardware control anyway. I assume the change was made back whenever they did the overhaul of the code to reduce CPU load etc.

Like I said, it caused me to wonder if any of the System 8 controls were using more than 8 bit native, though I doubt they were.

[Ingonator]

Speaking about MIDI controllers like The Legend and DUNE 3 the new plugin should get NKS presets to be used with the NI Komplete Kontrol and Maschine controllers but usually this will not be done before all factory presets are fiinished.

Personally i got a NI Komplete S61 Mk1 as my main controller and a Korg Wavestation EX as a second keyboard controller (and a hardware synth of course...).

How far out are we from a release on this thing? If it's still months away I probably don't need to be checking this thread daily... I'm excited, but not THAT excited!

No, there is no release date for this plugin yet and i do not want to guess. It will be released when it is finished...

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

This is where I really come to appreciate the Public Beta phase of U-he products. If features are locked and mostly stable across multiple formats and platforms, but the only things holding up a release are things like presets, NKS support, website, etc., go to public beta, only mention it in forums, put it on sale with an intro price, and let users have at it!

I get why every developer doesn't want to do that, but man do I like it as a customer!

[AnX]

How far out are we from a release on this thing? If it's still months away I probably don't need to be checking this thread daily... I'm excited, but not THAT excited!

no need to check this thread, it's mostly waffle, wait for something official

[AnX]

This is where I really come to appreciate the Public Beta phase of U-he products

that just uhe's way of getting round the "we do not do sales" bullshit

they basically get users to test for a discount price... or as normal ppl call it, "sale price"

[chk071]

This is where I really come to appreciate the Public Beta phase of U-he products. If features are locked and mostly stable across multiple formats and platforms, but the only things holding up a release are things like presets, NKS support, website, etc., go to public beta, only mention it in forums, put it on sale with an intro price, and let users have at it!

I get why every developer doesn't want to do that, but man do I like it as a customer!

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/showpos ... tcount=857

I totally agree with what Richard wrote there. Don't be fooled by the "public beta" tag. It's rather a release candidate, if then. I don't think anyone really benefits from rathe early versions, which are unfinished, contain lots of bugs, and need a lot more polish. Especially as more and more people simply judge by their first impression. Which will be bad, when the software is in earlier state.

[Kian Russell]

that just uhe's way of getting round the "we do not do sales" bullshit

they basically get users to test for a discount price... or as normal ppl call it, "sale price"

Hey Kriminal you do realise that Urs will strike you off his christmas card list for saying that.
I don't think there's anyway back.

[AnX]

that just uhe's way of getting round the "we do not do sales" bullshit

they basically get users to test for a discount price... or as normal ppl call it, "sale price"

Hey Kriminal you do realise that Urs will strike you off his christmas card list for saying that.
I don't think there's anyway back.

poor me

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

This is where I really come to appreciate the Public Beta phase of U-he products. If features are locked and mostly stable across multiple formats and platforms, but the only things holding up a release are things like presets, NKS support, website, etc., go to public beta, only mention it in forums, put it on sale with an intro price, and let users have at it!

I get why every developer doesn't want to do that, but man do I like it as a customer!

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/showpos ... tcount=857

I totally agree with what Richard wrote there. Don't be fooled by the "public beta" tag. It's rather a release candidate, if then. I don't think anyone really benefits from rathe early versions, which are unfinished, contain lots of bugs, and need a lot more polish. Especially as more and more people simply judge by their first impression. Which will be bad, when the software is in earlier state.

Like I said in the original post, I get why all developers don’t do it. As a customer, I personally love it.

[e-crooner]

Speaking about MIDI controllers like The Legend and DUNE 3 the new plugin should get NKS presets to be used with the NI Komplete Kontrol and Maschine controllers but usually this will not be done before all factory presets are fiinished.

I don't know much about NKS, or anything NI for that matter. But isn't Midi 2 supposed to replace NKS? I don't like it when a single company sets standards (and probably charges for their usage). If Midi 2 does replace NKS, no third-party developers should implement NKS in my view.

[EvilDragon]

Oh don't worry all the controls are still 32-bit float

Internal processing resolution. The plugin can choose to expose that or a lower res where it'll then internally smooth between values (to avoid stepping). I checked and they have indeed lowered this to 256 steps exposed to host automation for everything. Back in early 2017 the filter and LFO had the full value exposed. Though this would've only been accessible via the automation lane and host-automation based hardware control anyway. I assume the change was made back whenever they did the overhaul of the code to reduce CPU load etc.

Like I said, it caused me to wonder if any of the System 8 controls were using more than 8 bit native, though I doubt they were.

They only display the text strings 0-255, but the sound is still NOT stepped but processed with higher internal resolution. That's what matters. If you do a VERY slow filter sweep with high resonance, you won't get steppy harmonics happening like you get with mouse movement (or a MIDI CC).

[EvilDragon]

Speaking about MIDI controllers like The Legend and DUNE 3 the new plugin should get NKS presets to be used with the NI Komplete Kontrol and Maschine controllers but usually this will not be done before all factory presets are fiinished.

I don't know much about NKS, or anything NI for that matter. But isn't Midi 2 supposed to replace NKS? I don't like it when a single company sets standards (and probably charges for their usage). If Midi 2 does replace NKS, no third-party developers should implement NKS in my view.

MIDI 2.0 was not supposed to (and does not) replace NKS, it's not even the same thing really. And NI doesn't charge for using NKS at all. NKS is about NI's hardware ecosystem (Maschine and S-series keyboards along with accompanying software) and unified browsing for patches with common tags across a myriad of different plugins that support NKS. Like "I want a bright guitar sound, and I don't care which plugin gives it to me, let's see which one works best from everything that I have".

MIDI 2.0 is not about this at all.

[Cinebient]

Well, lets take it serious...
It sounds nice but i like the first part a bit more

Cognition bias, you were told which was which beforehand

I´m not biased to analog hardware since i much prefer software for many reasons.
It´s just a slight thing for me more present in the pad example. In general it might be just the envelopes or slightly different in the stereo field. The first examples seems to roll off more smooth and are more vibrant while the second examples sounds slightly more harsh. That is what i hear trough my headphones.
Another example could prove me wrong of course.
I´m absolutly not in the analog is better than software league but i tend to say the second example sound more digital
Of course that is dramatized and the different could be just all the little randomizations expected in analog synths or like said a nuance at a setting.
But especially the pad sound is a good example. I would like to hear that in the very high register.

[EvilDragon]

I did not say that you are biased to analog hardware. I said whatever you said was a product of cognition bias because you knew which was which before listening to the example, because it was mentioned in the post right there.

[Cinebient]

I did not say that you are biased to analog hardware. I said whatever you said was a product of cognition bias because you knew which was which before listening to the example, because it was mentioned in the post right there.

Sorry, no. But believe what you want