NI have announced they will no longer activate discontinued products

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JJ_Jettflow wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:11 pm
Sinisterbr wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:18 pm Don't feed the troll, guys.
The whole thread is a troll.
Sadly, the only troll here is YOU with your head up your ass "to hell with everybody else" mentality.

If you don't care, as you clearly stated, why not just stay out of a thread that is actually producing some constructive dialogue that might make the future success of NI more certain over the long run?

Let those who DO care work out some viable solutions.

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wagtunes wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:30 pm
JJ_Jettflow wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:11 pm
Sinisterbr wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:18 pm Don't feed the troll, guys.
The whole thread is a troll.
Sadly, the only troll here is YOU with your head up your ass "to hell with everybody else" mentality.

If you don't care, as you clearly stated, why not just stay out of a thread that is actually producing some constructive dialogue that might make the future success of NI more certain over the long run?

Let those who DO care work out some viable solutions.
I am a member so I can post what I like, as long as it conforms to KVR rules regardless of whether you like it or not.

Nice language by the way. I figured someone your age would be able to articulate themselves in a more professional manner by this time. Clearly I was wrong
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Forgotten wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:29 pm
Gamma-UT wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:25 pm
Forgotten wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:20 pm But they were not trying to support a portfolio of products as large as NI, nor were they planning on continuing to support current software at the same time as they were transitioning a product to Apple.

It’s a very different situation.
It’s exactly one product that’s affected: Service Center. Markus Krause posted a workable solution earlier. There are others.

That’s even assuming your point is relevant. The Camel group in Apple continued work on v2.
Lots of people have posted what they think are ‘workable solutions’, but I’m pretty sure none of them are NI employees or have insight into the design of the impacted software and systems...
Yes it would be hard for anyone to grasp the complexity of the process and where the challenges are but I'm personally also grabbing a couple of valid ideas. It's good to forward that to the teams so they can give us some feedback if they are possible or not.
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They just (sorta) reversed the decision:
https://www.musicradar.com/news/native- ... y-products

Will this thread now self-destruct? Nah : :)

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JJ_Jettflow wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:41 pm
wagtunes wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:30 pm
JJ_Jettflow wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:11 pm
Sinisterbr wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:18 pm Don't feed the troll, guys.
The whole thread is a troll.
Sadly, the only troll here is YOU with your head up your ass "to hell with everybody else" mentality.

If you don't care, as you clearly stated, why not just stay out of a thread that is actually producing some constructive dialogue that might make the future success of NI more certain over the long run?

Let those who DO care work out some viable solutions.
I am a member so I can post what I like, as long as it conforms to KVR rules regardless of whether you like it or not.
You got me there man. You certainly can post what you like as long as it conforms to KVR rules.

I have a vision.

I see my crown taken away from me.

And for that, I thank you.

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JoeCat wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:43 pm They just (sorta) reversed the decision:
https://www.musicradar.com/news/native- ... y-products

Will this thread now self-destruct? Nah : :)
Maybe not, but at least something good came out of it.

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JoeCat wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:43 pm They just (sorta) reversed the decision:
https://www.musicradar.com/news/native- ... y-products

Will this thread now self-destruct? Nah : :)
posting a link to a news item in the thread news item cites...

mind blown!
:ud:

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vurt wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:45 pm
JoeCat wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:43 pm They just (sorta) reversed the decision:
https://www.musicradar.com/news/native- ... y-products

Will this thread now self-destruct? Nah : :)
posting a link to a news item in the thread news item cites...

mind blown!
Oh no! It’s created an endless loop now that may discontinue the very fabric of the Universe!

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Forgotten wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:29 pm Lots of people have posted what they think are ‘workable solutions’, but I’m pretty sure none of them are NI employees or have insight into the design of the impacted software and systems...
It all doesn't matter. There's NIs EULA. And in case they pull this off, they're ignoring them. So, in fact, there's just two "workable solutions", none of which people would have to think about, simply because they're clearly described in these very EULAs:
1) Continue to allow people to authorize their NI software via Service Center on supported systems.
2) Deliver a solution to authorize the software affected without having to use Service Center.

As far as legal solutions go, there's really just these two.
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.

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Forgotten wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:50 pm
vurt wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:45 pm
JoeCat wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:43 pm They just (sorta) reversed the decision:
https://www.musicradar.com/news/native- ... y-products

Will this thread now self-destruct? Nah : :)
posting a link to a news item in the thread news item cites...

mind blown!
Oh no! It’s created an endless loop now that may discontinue the very fabric of the Universe!
damn you music radar!
you blew it up!!!
:ud:

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fmr wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:53 pm I wonder why Jupiter-8s or CS-80s, or Minimoogs or ARP 2600s are so valuable today.

Maybe that's because a lot of hipsters are using them for decoration purposes :lol:
Yup. Damn those pesky hipsters. And I heard from a reliable source they are the cause of Covid-19 and the swarms of locusts. Hipsters.

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EnGee wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:17 am You have no clue what I'm talking about! I'm not talking about the Spectral Delay code I'm talking about the Service Centre code that attached to the installation of every old plugin! This is a client side that run on server side once you click submit or authorize! You proved you had no knowledge so :smack:
I never claimed to know anything about how they do their authorization! You did, and I doubted and still doubt you know anything about the technical details. CP is not easy, its not just about a proof of ownership, there is certainly more involved...
The Service Center and each product is one big system. Spektral Delay is just an example for the more difficult to solve problem... There are enough alternatives for the majority of the involved products, but some plugins are pretty unique, those are the problematic ones...
Lets see how they approach the problem...

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Forgotten wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:29 pm Lots of people have posted what they think are ‘workable solutions’, but I’m pretty sure none of them are NI employees or have insight into the design of the impacted software and systems...
So, basically, your argument is if there are no workable solutions that NI was never able to honour its own commitments as laid out in its own EULA? And this is a good reason for failing to do it? Interesting.

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I will never buy Native Instruments Software again unless they change their attitude or they get bought out by someone else like Apple.

Here's a video I made about them two years ago about their support or lack thereof.
In short guitar, rig stopped working when I updated an operating system and their only solution was to give them more money to upgrade.

Well, guess what? There are many other options for guitar amps plugins including the ones that are built into logic for free.

Not to mention cracked versions of the software all over the Internet.

I guess the only mistake I made was investing in them by buying their products.

I pretty much stopped using all third-party plug-ins and use what's built-in to Logic Pro X.


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Aloysius wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:13 am The end is NI
:lol:
No auto tune...

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