KVR Audio

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:50 pm

highkoo wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:37 pm This is actually really sad the more I think about it...
Less dollars are going to flow into NI now, and thats the last thing they need.

when you let customers down so many times, you kinda bring it upon yourself

highkoo · Post by **highkoo** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:54 pm

EvilDragon wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:40 pm Reaktor is not getting dumbed down. If you're implying Blocks here, they're just another avenue of exploring what Reaktor can do, not THE only way.

Yea, fair enough. Its not being dumbed down for old users, but Id bet a TON of new users are very attracted by the blocks, and dont go much further.
But, yea that could be seen as opening the thing up to more people I spose.

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:00 pm

Jace-BeOS wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:33 pm
Tj Shredder wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:04 am
TabSel wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:51 am lol
another one tricked to think they are your friend, not a business.
A good business treats customers as friends. There is no contradiction...
Very few good businesses out there, then...

there is a little family owned market on my way home from work if I take my alternate route, I like it because it's a small store with big store prices and they are community driven. In three years been in there maybe a dozen times, however another new dispensary is nearby so I stop in this store more often. A week ago sat I bought a whoopie pie there but left it behind, Wednesday I went and the woman recognized me and gave me a whoopie pie...I went in this sat on my way home (just for cat food) and the woman says "hey it's the whoopie pie guy!!!!"

Sorry for the ot but these people did treat me like a friend and even Ash something to the like of "well dad will be there all the time now" which is true, I very much prefer to go to small local owned businesses than chains...this is especially true with restaurants, I dont care for the chain places.

highkoo · Post by **highkoo** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:05 pm

Hink wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:00 pm "hey it's the whoopie pie guy!!!!"

Meanwhile, I crack jokes with box store clerks nearly every day, and generally, rather than being met by a fellow human who perhaps wants to have fun for a couple moments in their robotic day, I am most often stared at blankly by an overly medicated humorless drone being driven into the ground by corporate policy.
Or, Im just the creepy old guy in line.

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:34 pm

highkoo wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:05 pm
Hink wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:00 pm "hey it's the whoopie pie guy!!!!"

Meanwhile, I crack jokes with box store clerks nearly every day, and generally, rather than being met by a fellow human who perhaps wants to have fun for a couple moments in their robotic day, I am most often stared at blankly by an overly medicated humorless drone being driven into the ground by corporate policy.
Or, Im just the creepy old guy in line.

before we moved I was in a wallyworld in new hampshire but all I was buying was guinnea pig food and heartburn meds...the women kinda looked at me odd and I said "best trail mix ever but it gives me terrible heartburn"...I could still hear her laughing as I walked out of the door. I feel exactly like you do, a corny joke might just change the course of their day...worst case they just think you're insane...but if I can break up the day just a little

highkoo · Post by **highkoo** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:38 pm

Yep, for the real humans left, its a good time.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:10 pm

can you two get back on topic please...

pandashake · Post by **pandashake** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:47 pm

EvilDragon wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:18 pm Meanwhile Kore 2 still works great under Windows, including hardware. Apparently even the software works under Catalina, but driver for Kore 2 might be 32-bit so that ain't happening, but could've worked fine before Catalina.

Was there a 64 bit version of Kore?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:00 pm

Yep, that was the last update before discontinuation.

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:16 pm

Let's be honest! What the real products by NI except Kontakt?! I don't consider Reaktor NI's baby. I feel most of NI business is related to third party.

Anyway, great marketing and demos. I must give them this

Ok, now let me stop trolling this thread

I'm going to return to hunt Reason 10 again maybe! (just itching to buy something under $100!).

digitalboytn · Post by **digitalboytn** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:07 pm

Hink wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:00 pm This is especially true with restaurants, I dont care for the chain places.

The problem is that if they don't cook them properly, those chains can be pretty tough going

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:54 pm

digitalboytn wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:07 pm
Hink wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:00 pm This is especially true with restaurants, I dont care for the chain places.
The problem is that if they don't cook them properly, those chains can be pretty tough going

noiseboyuk · Post by **noiseboyuk** » Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:03 am

I'm very passionate about this issue. I'm really glad NI are looking at it again, it's an important precedent.

But I feel I would be remiss if I didn't point out that we appear to have just stumbled into World War III, and the next 18 months are going to be unlike anything we've experienced. In that context, I actually don't care about this issue - or anything on KVR for that matter - quite as much as I did a week ago. (and with all due apologies to the parts of the world that have already lived through some of it).

Wishing everyone at NI, and KVR all the very best - please practice social distancing, but stay in very close touch with your friends and families, and generally look out for one another. On this issue, we are all very much in the same very big boat.

machinesworking · Post by **machinesworking** » Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:28 am

EvilDragon wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:32 pm I do full VST scans without any hangs. I know a bunch of people who still have no issues with it. I guess it really depends if you might have a particular gremlin plugin that it trips over or not...

But anyways!

This you of course know is the typical "it works on my system" logic, that gets used constantly to circumvent responsibility. In this case, if there is a particular conflict with a plug in, there is no hope of a solution, since Kore is dead in the water.

I just think it's weird to brag about Windows being backwards compatible in defense of NI abandoning Kore, ( among other big slash and burn techniques NI does that we are discussing here ). Basically you're pulling a line of defense for NI getting attacked for having similar ruthless policies as Apple in terms of backwards compatibility, by not so subtly attempting to paint it as an Apple issue.

revvy · Post by **revvy** » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:13 am

ED is not an impartial commentator.

NI have announced they will no longer activate discontinued products