KVR Audio

masterhiggins · Post by **masterhiggins** » Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:55 pm

Ben H wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:37 pm
EvilDragon wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:30 am I wouldn't bet on that or talk about it as if it were a sure thing to happen.
I'm sure any Alchemy PC users would've said the same thing before it happened.

Yup. I fondly recall ZenPunkHippie’s (at Camel) anti-corporate rants just days before they sold out to the biggest corporation in history.

highkoo · Post by **highkoo** » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:01 pm

masterhiggins wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:55 pm ZenPunkHippie

Holy shit, are we allowed to say that name around here...!?

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:02 pm

EvilDragon wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:03 am Sure I'm biased, but this is true for everybody

“Everyone else does it” isn’t exactly a great excuse for allowing a bias to have such impact on one’s commentary as it has in this thread with your NI-defensive posture.

Normally I find your input to be invaluable on KVR, so I’ve been doing a lot of “WTF” takes while reading your responses to people who have legit grievances with NI. Your defensiveness of NI comes across (from my perspective) a lot like when smart people miss key social cues and proceed to comment on irrelevant points or use them to defend the criticized behavior.

highkoo · Post by **highkoo** » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:12 pm

ED's knowledge, access, and forthcomingness are a worthy trade off against his.. loyalties. imo

Klinke · Post by **Klinke** » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:25 pm

EvilDragon wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:18 pm Meanwhile Kore 2 still works great under Windows, including hardware.

AFAIK only as long as you have the driver already installed some time ago or you are using a Windows version < 8.1. My Kore controller is a brick since I reinstalled Windows 10 on my Microsoft Surface (with the same version as before, so the problem is not the driver itself, but the installer). See also:
https://support.native-instruments.com/ ... s-Hardware

revvy · Post by **revvy** » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:27 pm

Both the NI dudes in this thread have made me less likely to buy future NI products. IMO, natch,

highkoo · Post by **highkoo** » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:37 pm

This thread is pretty easy going compared to the MX threads...

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:44 pm

Klinke wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:25 pm
EvilDragon wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:18 pm Meanwhile Kore 2 still works great under Windows, including hardware.
AFAIK only as long as you have the driver already installed some time ago or you are using a Windows version < 8.1. My Kore controller is a brick since I reinstalled Windows 10 on my Microsoft Surface (with the same version as before, so the problem is not the driver itself, but the installer). See also:
https://support.native-instruments.com/ ... s-Hardware

I don't have the software installed under Windows 10, but I have a first generation Kore controller (the one with the included audio interface) and it still works. I presume that, if I was able to install and authorize the Kore software (I am not willing to go through the hassles of Service Center) it would work perfectly. So, any problem you had may probably be hardware related (MoBo, etc), rather than the OS itself.

revvy · Post by **revvy** » Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:11 pm

masterhiggins wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:55 pm
Ben H wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:37 pm
EvilDragon wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:30 am I wouldn't bet on that or talk about it as if it were a sure thing to happen.
I'm sure any Alchemy PC users would've said the same thing before it happened.
Yup. I fondly recall ZenPunkHippie’s (at Camel) anti-corporate rants just days before they sold out to the biggest corporation in history.

I fondly remember selling all my Camel stuff in the shut-down period with a sad heart before knowing why they were shutting up shop, and then finding that Alchemy suddenly reappeared in Logic. f**k me!

Klinke · Post by **Klinke** » Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:17 pm

fmr wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:44 pm I don't have the software installed under Windows 10, but I have a first generation Kore controller (the one with the included audio interface) and it still works. I presume that, if I was able to install and authorize the Kore software (I am not willing to go through the hassles of Service Center) it would work perfectly. So, any problem you had may probably be hardware related (MoBo, etc), rather than the OS itself.

Have you checked the link? When NI itselfs it's saying, that Kore is not supported by Windows 10, why should this the problem of my hardware? To be fair, acYm has posted a workaround in another thread, which maybe (I have not tested it) allows to install the driver also on Windows 10, which indicates that NI only needed to build a new installer to solve the problem.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:29 pm

Klinke wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:25 pm
EvilDragon wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:18 pm Meanwhile Kore 2 still works great under Windows, including hardware.
AFAIK only as long as you have the driver already installed some time ago or you are using a Windows version < 8.1. My Kore controller is a brick since I reinstalled Windows 10 on my Microsoft Surface (with the same version as before, so the problem is not the driver itself, but the installer). See also:
https://support.native-instruments.com/ ... s-Hardware

Kore Controller 1 or 2? I have the latter one.

In some cases running the installer in W7 compatibility mode also helped things out. I think I remember this being the case with Pro-53 installer under W10...

TabSel · Post by **TabSel** » Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:33 pm

to be fair: “not supported” does not mean “not installable” or “not working”. It just means there will be no support if anything does not work as expected...

As there is “no support” for Kore since 2011, and the support you got before that, or currently, for other software, from other companys, too, is mostly non-existent or non-productive anyways, even for “supported” software, simply don’t care, use “the community” or, simple try and do it yourself and install the software and see what happens?

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:00 pm

BBFG# wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:01 am Meanwhile, it's Native Access that doesn't work on any of my systems... (Lenovo, Samsung, Dell, Acer).
And every time I figure out a work-around, they change it and make me start all over in finding another work around.
Plugins themselves work more often than not. But getting updates or new downloads can literally take a lot of time, trial and error when trying to figure out what they changed to make sure it limits who it works or won't work for.

Here is a page detailing stopping NA from auto-updating.
Hope it will be useful when get the NA working again.

https://support.native-instruments.com/ ... -10-en-us-

Cheers

Klinke · Post by **Klinke** » Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:23 pm

TabSel wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:33 pm to be fair: “not supported” does not mean “not installable” or “not working”. It just means there will be no support if anything does not work as expected...

Does nobody open the link I posted? It says Windows Compatibility. You get also not support for Kore under Windows 7 but still the table their says that Kore 1 and Kore 2 is compatible with Windows 7 and not with Windows 10. Also I described my own experience, that I could not reinstall the drivers after I reinstalled Windows 10.

Klinke · Post by **Klinke** » Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:25 pm

EvilDragon wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:29 pm Kore Controller 1 or 2? I have the latter one.

In some cases running the installer in W7 compatibility mode also helped things out. I think I remember this being the case with Pro-53 installer under W10...

The link I posted says that Windows 10 is incompatible for Kore 1 and Kore 2.

NI have announced they will no longer activate discontinued products