My XPS fried my SSD. Tougher laptop recommendations for sustained use?

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Echoes in the Attic
KVRAF
8136 posts since 12 May, 2008

Post Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:35 am

I was already having problems with the xps 15 2-in-1 due to the latency caused stuttering at times but it looks like the battery just went nuts and fried my SSD, also it has been warping the chassis. I think this thing is too slim and fragile for sustained use. I used to use MacBooks for long periods of time and never had this problem. But I’m using this for work and music production and regular use, which means it ps been on almost all the time.

So I think I’ll move to something a little more durable. I still want a laptop for it to be somewhat portable but it can be a bit of a tank. 15 inch, don’t care about touch screen since I use an external monitor in the office/studio.

Wh@t are some laptops with good cooling that can handle working hard for long periods of time and won’t get fried?

Ideal would be two slots for ssds and 2 ram slots. Or can handle 32 gb ram. I’d like to get six core or even 8 but if there is significant cost savings I’d consider quad core.
Oh and thunderbolt (right side) so I can keep using my dell thunderbolt dock.

Thanks
System: Windows 10, Dell XPS 2-in-1, Bitwig 3, Steinberg UR44.

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thecontrolcentre
KVRAF
27443 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny

Re: My XPS fried my SSD. Tougher laptop recommendations for sustained use?

Post Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:46 am

SCAN 3XS laptops are tough ... mine has 3 SSDs and never skipped a beat in 5 years.
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jdnz
KVRian
846 posts since 3 Oct, 2011 from Christchurch, New Zealand

Re: My XPS fried my SSD. Tougher laptop recommendations for sustained use?

Post Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:27 pm

HP Zbook 15/17 (conventional form=factor and 'portable workstations' so rated for sustained high loads)

https://www8.hp.com/us/en/workstations- ... index.html

I'd avoid the slimmer/lighter studio and convertible models

Echoes in the Attic
KVRAF
8136 posts since 12 May, 2008

Re: My XPS fried my SSD. Tougher laptop recommendations for sustained use?

Post Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:56 am

Thanks guys. I've had my eye on the zbooks for some time. I like the 2-in-1 version, but perhaps that's not the best idea, maybe best to go with the full laptop? Not sure if it's thicker or not. I've heard good things about the zbooks in terms of heavy use, so I might go that way. Also I like how it has two ram slots and 2 ssd slots. That's huge.
System: Windows 10, Dell XPS 2-in-1, Bitwig 3, Steinberg UR44.

Echoes in the Attic
KVRAF
8136 posts since 12 May, 2008

Re: My XPS fried my SSD. Tougher laptop recommendations for sustained use?

Post Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:58 am

jdnz wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:27 pm
HP Zbook 15/17 (conventional form=factor and 'portable workstations' so rated for sustained high loads)

https://www8.hp.com/us/en/workstations- ... index.html

I'd avoid the slimmer/lighter studio and convertible models
Oh I didn't realize the studio was different from another zbook. Zbook workstation it's called?
System: Windows 10, Dell XPS 2-in-1, Bitwig 3, Steinberg UR44.

jdnz
KVRian
846 posts since 3 Oct, 2011 from Christchurch, New Zealand

Re: My XPS fried my SSD. Tougher laptop recommendations for sustained use?

Post Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:14 pm

Echoes in the Attic wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:58 am
jdnz wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:27 pm
HP Zbook 15/17 (conventional form=factor and 'portable workstations' so rated for sustained high loads)

https://www8.hp.com/us/en/workstations- ... index.html

I'd avoid the slimmer/lighter studio and convertible models
Oh I didn't realize the studio was different from another zbook. Zbook workstation it's called?
studio has marginally better cpu choices than the zbook 15/17 (can get a xeon in the studio) but worse graphics (quadro vs rtx) - so a lot of it comes down to exactly what you prioritise - compare the specs, either should be good but I've only got direct experience with the 15/17 (as the apps we run need as much cuda grunt as we can get)

https://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetDocume ... 7-5427ENUC

https://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetDocume ... 7-2494ENUC

Echoes in the Attic
KVRAF
8136 posts since 12 May, 2008

Re: My XPS fried my SSD. Tougher laptop recommendations for sustained use?

Post Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:16 am

jdnz wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:14 pm
Echoes in the Attic wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:58 am
jdnz wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:27 pm
HP Zbook 15/17 (conventional form=factor and 'portable workstations' so rated for sustained high loads)

https://www8.hp.com/us/en/workstations- ... index.html

I'd avoid the slimmer/lighter studio and convertible models
Oh I didn't realize the studio was different from another zbook. Zbook workstation it's called?
studio has marginally better cpu choices than the zbook 15/17 (can get a xeon in the studio) but worse graphics (quadro vs rtx) - so a lot of it comes down to exactly what you prioritise - compare the specs, either should be good but I've only got direct experience with the 15/17 (as the apps we run need as much cuda grunt as we can get)

https://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetDocume ... 7-5427ENUC

https://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetDocume ... 7-2494ENUC
I can’t say that I care about graphics much as it’s mainly for audio stuff. Having used the xps for a while and seeing how hot it gets and the issues that caused, I am skeptical of any of these super slim ones now.
System: Windows 10, Dell XPS 2-in-1, Bitwig 3, Steinberg UR44.

Haptix
KVRist
81 posts since 18 Oct, 2019

Re: My XPS fried my SSD. Tougher laptop recommendations for sustained use?

Post Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:00 am

"Wh@t are some laptops with good cooling that can handle working hard for long periods of time and won’t get fried?"

Atleast you will not find any on the Apple camp :D They have notoriously week cooling design. I would go for gaming laptops.
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Pictus
KVRist
371 posts since 21 Aug, 2017 from Brasil

Re: My XPS fried my SSD. Tougher laptop recommendations for sustained use?

Post Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:02 am

Echoes in the Attic wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:16 am
I am skeptical of any of these super slim ones now.
You are right, slim = crap
More rugged and heavy laptop will have better heat dissipation. :tu:
I did not tested, but Eurocom has some interesting models...

I would check the specialized forums/sites to be sure:
http://www.notebookcheck.net
http://www.mobiletechreview.com
http://laptopmedia.com/category/reviews/
http://www.anandtech.com/tag/laptops
http://www.digitaltrends.com/laptop-reviews/

Steve Bolivar
KVRian
690 posts since 25 Aug, 2006

Re: My XPS fried my SSD. Tougher laptop recommendations for sustained use?

Post Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:44 am

I've never used them, but I've seen some here recommend the Dell Precision series. As others have said, workstations and gaming laptops are designed for sustained heavy loads.
I use a Dell G3, entry level gaming laptop. The only problem I have is occasional DPC latency drops that I'm pretty sure are from the Nvidia 1050Ti graphics. When it's on my lap I always use a tray to keep the vents from being blocked.

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Pictus
KVRist
371 posts since 21 Aug, 2017 from Brasil

Re: My XPS fried my SSD. Tougher laptop recommendations for sustained use?

Post Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:55 pm

Steve Bolivar wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:44 am
I've never used them, but I've seen some here recommend the Dell Precision series. As others have said, workstations and gaming laptops are designed for sustained heavy loads.
I use a Dell G3, entry level gaming laptop. The only problem I have is occasional DPC latency drops that I'm pretty sure are from the Nvidia 1050Ti graphics. When it's on my lap I always use a tray to keep the vents from being blocked.
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jdnz
KVRian
846 posts since 3 Oct, 2011 from Christchurch, New Zealand

Re: My XPS fried my SSD. Tougher laptop recommendations for sustained use?

Post Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:09 pm

the other thing is to ask yourself 'do I absolutely have to have a laptop' - as cramming a high performance machine into a laptop will always be a struggle in terms of thermal management. There's lots of options for 'compact' high performance machines now ( HP Z2 mini, i9-9900 powered all-in-ones, custom built mini-ITX machines) - it's no longer a case of 'laptop or full size tower' - wheras in the past I knew heaps of people who had laptops that never left their desks, it's just they didn't want a 'big bulky' computer

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Mister Natural
KVRAF
2489 posts since 28 Oct, 2007 from michigan

Re: My XPS fried my SSD. Tougher laptop recommendations for sustained use?

Post Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:23 am

Steve Bolivar wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:44 am
I've never used them, but I've seen some here recommend the Dell Precision series...
DellPrecision user here - It's held up nicely but has an ancient 2760 chip running at 2.4ghz w/500gb ssd, 8gb ram
I do love the titanium case but this thing is big(18" screen) and as heavy as a 1950s era SiFi film
the main & only complaint is that it swallows battery life like Godzilla swallows whole cities
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KVRAF
3920 posts since 8 Jan, 2005 from Hamilton, New Zealand

Re: My XPS fried my SSD. Tougher laptop recommendations for sustained use?

Post Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:25 pm

Echoes in the Attic wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:35 am

So I think I’ll move to something a little more durable. I still want a laptop for it to be somewhat portable but it can be a bit of a tank. 15 inch, don’t care about touch screen since I use an external monitor in the office/studio.
I recommend getting a UPS for the studio. Filters the power, and protects against spikes etc. You get a minor amount of protection from the built-in battery switching on a laptop, but not as much as you'd get from a good desktop PSU.

Generally I don't recommend laptops for stability.

ozonepaul
KVRist
145 posts since 18 Mar, 2007 from London

Re: My XPS fried my SSD. Tougher laptop recommendations for sustained use?

Post Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:41 am

thecontrolcentre wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:46 am
SCAN 3XS laptops are tough ... mine has 3 SSDs and never skipped a beat in 5 years.
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