macOS 10.5.4 ready for prime time?

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TabSel
KVRian
595 posts since 14 Mar, 2002

Post Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:46 am

Or still unknowns in daw/plugin land?

What are your experiences?

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Forgotten
KVRAF
11426 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere

Re: macOS 10.5.4 ready for prime time?

Post Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:01 am

Too old. Upgrade to at least Sierra.

TabSel
KVRian
595 posts since 14 Mar, 2002

Re: macOS 10.5.4 ready for prime time?

Post Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:25 am

10.15.4 sorry, How can I edit the thread title?

Haptix
KVRist
81 posts since 18 Oct, 2019

Re: macOS 10.5.4 ready for prime time?

Post Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:56 am

I would personally wait until the MacOS - Death Valley edition until upgrading. It will get rid of any problems if there should be any.
{"panic_string":"BAD MAGIC! :shrug: (flag set in iBoot panic header), no macOS panic log available"} "Apple did not respond to a request for comment."

elxsound
KVRAF
5818 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC

Re: macOS 10.5.4 ready for prime time?

Post Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:53 am

It depends. You really have to go through your plugins to see what's compatible (and in some cases what's still supported).

I still won't be upgrading just yet.

Good luck!

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Forgotten
KVRAF
11426 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere

Re: macOS 10.5.4 ready for prime time?

Post Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:23 am

I upgraded to Catalina a week after release and have had no issues at all. Similar with all point releases since then.

Haptix
KVRist
81 posts since 18 Oct, 2019

Re: macOS 10.5.4 ready for prime time?

Post Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:44 am

Forgotten wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:23 am
I upgraded to Catalina a week after release and have had no issues at all. Similar with all point releases since then.
Which plugins you use?
{"panic_string":"BAD MAGIC! :shrug: (flag set in iBoot panic header), no macOS panic log available"} "Apple did not respond to a request for comment."

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Forgotten
KVRAF
11426 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere

Re: macOS 10.5.4 ready for prime time?

Post Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:49 pm

Haptix wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:44 am
Forgotten wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:23 am
I upgraded to Catalina a week after release and have had no issues at all. Similar with all point releases since then.
Which plugins you use?
Various Native Instruments, various Arturia, various Korg, various Sugar Bytes, various iZotope, various Blue Cat Audio, Pianoteq, Microtonic, maybe a few others.

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masterhiggins
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2276 posts since 31 Dec, 2004 from People's Republic of Minnesota

Re: macOS 10.5.4 ready for prime time?

Post Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:39 pm

Haptix wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:56 am
I would personally wait until the MacOS - Death Valley edition until upgrading. It will get rid of any problems if there should be any.
:lol:

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teilo
KVRian
506 posts since 30 Mar, 2008

Re: macOS 10.5.4 ready for prime time?

Post Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:09 am

If you are upgrading, iZotope works fine. If you try to install iZotope on Catalina, you need to do manual workarounds for any older versions, as the installers are broken (Noteably: Ozone 8 ). For current versions, it works fine as long as you ignore the error message that pops up during most installs.

Plugins provided without installers do not work at all unless you de-quarantine them from Terminal. This is not a bug. It is by design, and will never be fixed. So, for example, Air Windows or Analog Obsession. It's not hard to fix, but it's annoying.

Everything else I have is working fine, including everything from Arturia, NI, U-He, Soundtoys, Fab Filter, Melda, Parawave, Vengeance, PA, Softube, Kilohearts, Eventide, Steinberg, Acoustica, TAL, Sonic Academy, and others.

As for DAWs, I can confirm that Logic, Bitwig, Ableton, S1, Reaper, and Reason are all fine.
macOS | Bitwig 3.x | Logic Pro X | Scarlett 6i6 v2 | DX7 w/SER-7 | Adam Audio T7V & Sub8
U-he all | Melda all | TAL synths | Komplete 12 Ult. Coll. | Arturia V 7 | Fabfilter Pro all | Rapid | countless others

TabSel
KVRian
595 posts since 14 Mar, 2002

Re: macOS 10.5.4 ready for prime time?

Post Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:16 am

thanks!

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Gamma-UT
KVRAF
5508 posts since 8 Jun, 2009 from UK

Re: macOS 10.5.4 ready for prime time?

Post Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:21 am

Most stuff works. However, several of the Lexicon bundles trigger security warnings in Catalina (and I think Mojave as well) - the ones that are affected are the effects and the LXP but not the PCM reverbs. Lexicon is supposed to be working on a fix but it's been quite a while since this surfaced and no fix yet. However, in some cases, it's isolated to the AUs - the VSTs on the effects bundle seem to pass unscathed.

Audio Damage had similar issues but a reinstall workaround does the job for them and I think they have a permanent fix either ready or almost there.

Frankly, other than the loss of 32bit compatibility, I was surprised by how much does work.

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Forgotten
KVRAF
11426 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere

Re: macOS 10.5.4 ready for prime time?

Post Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:27 am

I think there’s a lot more fear that things will break on Catalina than is necessary

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Jace-BeOS
KVRAF
6164 posts since 7 Jan, 2005 from Corporate States of America

Re: macOS 10.5.4 ready for prime time?

Post Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:12 am

teilo wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:09 am
...Plugins provided without installers do not work at all unless you de-quarantine them from Terminal. This is not a bug. It is by design, and will never be fixed. So, for example, Air Windows or Analog Obsession. It's not hard to fix, but it's annoying. ...
I was entirely unaware of this. Thanks for mentioning this. Why is this a thing? Mac OS has been a system that for ages hasn’t necessarily required installers. There’s usually no uninstaller mechanism for software, so having the demand for an installer, where companies can dump extra unneeded stuff on my system (like NI’s five different languages of PDF manuals), where i have to then hunt down and delete said unnecessary stuff, is annoying.
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Haptix
KVRist
81 posts since 18 Oct, 2019

Re: macOS 10.5.4 ready for prime time?

Post Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:45 am

Forgotten wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:27 am
I think there’s a lot more fear that things will break on Catalina than is necessary
:lol:
{"panic_string":"BAD MAGIC! :shrug: (flag set in iBoot panic header), no macOS panic log available"} "Apple did not respond to a request for comment."

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