Combined name for a chord?

[BertKoor]

Jan would give you an answer.

Who is Jan Exactly?

JanCivil is our resident music theory expert. She's currently missing in action, we're hoping she'll show up eventually.

I think she'd say something alike: you won't be able to give that chord the appropriate name if you don't know the context. What's before it, what comes after? That for instance can influence whether it's base is F or it's a very elaborate C.
If you don't even know the root, there's no use in naming the rest.

[someone called simon]

It's a polychord I would say, 2 chords at once, hard to write on a computer.

F
CM7

Something like that, F and C major 7 together;

From wikipedia:
In music and music theory, a polychord consists of two or more chords, one on top of the other. In shorthand they are written with the top chord above a line and the bottom chord below.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polychord

[Gamma-UT]

Jan would give you an answer.

Who is Jan Exactly?

JanCivil is our resident music theory expert. She's currently missing in action, we're hoping she'll show up eventually.

I think she'd say something alike: you won't be able to give that chord the appropriate name if you don't know the context. What's before it, what comes after? That for instance can influence whether it's base is F or it's a very elaborate C.
If you don't even know the root, there's no use in naming the rest.

Yep, my gut feel is that it's an inverted "Lydian" Fmaj7#11, as that's pretty commonly used in C major, but with an added 9th (and inverted). But it could easily be something else if it's a bunch of extensions added to another (inverted) triad in that position.

[xtp]

Chord naming tends to vary, depending on the type of music it is referenced to. If it was a folk or even a pop tune, I would call it Cmaj7 6 11 — if it was a jazz piece then Fmaj7#11, and I assume, in classical, it would be marked down as a polychord [as Simon pointed out].

All would be correct.

However, I always take into account the sound of the chord in relation to the passage and the current key, because at the end of the day, if you are writing a piece in text form as opposed to sheet music, you want the chord name to jog your memory further down the track, and in a years time, not think, 'What was I playing there?'

A constant one for me is the 13 chord and the mb9 which is one of my mainstay chords : Because I generally only play 5ths if they are in triads or altered, the 13 I play is 1,3,b7,13 which structurally can be rearranged as, 1, b3, 5, b9 — so Ab13 has the same notes a Fmb9 — although I find with jazz stuff, it is easier to mark the idea down on sheet music, because when you return to it at a later date, there is no confusion over which notes were used, and the order of the notes, which may be important when they are arranged to give a specific inflection of tone.

[Forgotten]

I find with jazz stuff, it is easier to mark the idea down on sheet music, because when you return to it at a later date, there is no confusion over which notes were used, and the order of the notes, which may be important when they are arranged to give a specific inflection of tone.

That was the thought behind my C Major 13 with missing 9th.

[xtp]

I find with jazz stuff, it is easier to mark the idea down on sheet music, because when you return to it at a later date, there is no confusion over which notes were used, and the order of the notes, which may be important when they are arranged to give a specific inflection of tone.

That was the thought behind my C Major 13 with missing 9th.

It certainly can get confusing quite quickly, and I think with the previous post, I was just trying to say, a written chord name is a only label, and does not always have clear meaning.

Sometimes when playing with a riff I will change the inversion of the chord in the same bar. If I wrote the chord name as text, it might look like, [ Ab13, Ab13, ] but the second Ab13 might be a completely different inversion, and sound tonally, quite different — and that is where the brilliance of sheet music comes in as a storage medium.

[Forgotten]

It also depends which instrument you play it on, as guitar forces you to play different voicings from piano.

[xtp]

It also depends which instrument you play it on, as guitar forces you to play different voicings from piano.

Very true — I am primarily a guitarist, but when I am playing around in Cubase I prefer to use a piano [sound] to write with, in combination with a Bass guitar [sound], and subsequently, I transfer the riffs from guitar to expand upon the tune.

[msf sadib]

Jan would give you an answer.

Who is Jan Exactly?

JanCivil is our resident music theory expert. She's currently missing in action, we're hoping she'll show up eventually.

I think she'd say something alike: you won't be able to give that chord the appropriate name if you don't know the context. What's before it, what comes after? That for instance can influence whether it's base is F or it's a very elaborate C.
If you don't even know the root, there's no use in naming the rest.

The bass is C.the chords is in C major scale

[msf sadib]

It also depends which instrument you play it on, as guitar forces you to play different voicings from piano.

I'm using a piano

[msf sadib]

I find with jazz stuff, it is easier to mark the idea down on sheet music, because when you return to it at a later date, there is no confusion over which notes were used, and the order of the notes, which may be important when they are arranged to give a specific inflection of tone.

That was the thought behind my C Major 13 with missing 9th.

It certainly can get confusing quite quickly, and I think with the previous post, I was just trying to say, a written chord name is a only label, and does not always have clear meaning.

Sometimes when playing with a riff I will change the inversion of the chord in the same bar. If I wrote the chord name as text, it might look like, [ Ab13, Ab13, ] but the second Ab13 might be a completely different inversion, and sound tonally, quite different — and that is where the brilliance of sheet music comes in as a storage medium.

Wish I could read sheet music

[Forgotten]

It's not as hard to learn as some people think. Get a book for beginners that shows you how to recognize notes, time signatures, key signatures and play by counting beats in a bar.

It might take time, but if you don't start you'll never learn.

[vurt]

it is a lot easier than you think.
it can take a little time for it to click, but once it does, bam! the rest kind of just flows.

you are only really dealing with 7 letters, once you find which 7 for your given key, you are most of the way there for pitch.

and theres only so many divisions for rhythm.

as forgotten says, dont take the first step, youll never get to the end of the road

the idiots guide to music theory is a very good book for a beginner. covers the basics and a little more, but in an easy down to earth language.
very helpful if you are learning home alone, i personally found some of the other books a little scary as they all jumped straight in with the latin n stuff

has excercises too, to see what youve learned in each chapter

and i dont know if youre in the same boat as me, imprisoned at home by corona, but now would be a good time to learn something new. will certainly help pass the time

[Forgotten]

There's a lot of sheet music can be downloaded online too, so you can find pieces you know and practice sight reading from them.

[JoseC.]

It's not as hard to learn as some people think. Get a book for beginners that shows you how to recognize notes, time signatures, key signatures and play by counting beats in a bar.

It might take time, but if you don't start you'll never learn.

This. Especially if you are playing piano, it is pretty easy to learn and recognize the notes.