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recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:59 pm

https://soundcloud.com/recursion-loop/s ... 6-master-5

A tribute to mid to late 00's melodic psytrance, inspired by Protoculture, Ephedrix, Digicult and the like. Not really very psychedelic but energetic and euphoric (meant to be

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Lots of Viper synth in there.

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:02 pm

So that's what a melody sounds like

Sounds great man, that 303 is killer. Is that ABL or Viper?

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:09 pm

Mushy Mushy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:02 pm So that's what a melody sounds like

Kinda

303 is Phoscyon

Thanks for listening!

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:10 pm

recursive one wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:09 pm 303 is Phoscyon

D'oh! Almost mentioned that one too. Still sounds the business after all this time.

toonertik · Post by **toonertik** » Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:49 pm

I had a good experience listening to this...

I just came from Mushy's latest forest thingy...

He needs to shave down under...
was a very hairy experience ..

OK... jokes aside... you guys make some wicked energy happening ...

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:04 pm

Great psy vibe indeed!

I still don't quite know how to generate sequences like that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:20 pm

Excellent as always. I was thinking of getting the Phoscyon but that GUI is a deal breaker. Do you think the ABL3 is as good or do you feel the Phoscyon is vastly superior? I can't really hear a difference between the two but since you do this genre more often you probably can hear a difference.

Also, I'm very impressed with how well you seem to know the genres as far as eras, influences and so on.

Anyway, thanks for the track.

Bansaw · Post by **Bansaw** » Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:45 pm

High standard, great to listen to... as usual.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:46 am

Thanks for listening guys!

DJ Warmonger wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:04 pm still don't quite know how to generate sequences like that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Idk, I just draw everything in piano roll. Knowing some basic music theory helps

wagtunes wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:20 pm I was thinking of getting the Phoscyon but that GUI is a deal breaker. Do you think the ABL3 is as good or do you feel the Phoscyon is vastly superior? I can't really hear a difference between the two but since you do this genre more often you probably can hear a difference.

Sorry I never tried ABL nor any other 303 emu except Phoscyon. I also never had any 303 hardware so I don't know how authentic it actually sounds, but it sounds great to me, especially with the built-in distortion. Afaik there is no distortion in ABL.

The gui is fine to me, not the prettiest but the layout is decent.

wagtunes wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:20 pm Also, I'm very impressed with how well you seem to know the genres as far as eras, influences and so on.

Iirc I was first exposed to psytrance in 2006. It wasn't always my main focus but I always had some interest in it and followed its development. Still, 2006-2013 were the best years imo (Protoculture - Circadians to U_recken - Light at the End of the World and lots of cool stuff inbetween).

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:13 pm

recursive one wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:46 am Thanks for listening guys!
DJ Warmonger wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:04 pm still don't quite know how to generate sequences like that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Idk, I just draw everything in piano roll. Knowing some basic music theory helps

Quite the opposite. I make everything too melodic, while psy barely has any melodies at all. It's about spamming unspeakable sounds in pretty much random sequences.

I don't know to to create this blipy arp from very beginning, or this very sparse sequence starting at 1:00.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:25 pm

DJ Warmonger wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:13 pm I don't know to to create this blipy arp from very beginning, or this very sparse sequence starting at 1:00.

Ah, for some reason I thought you meant the melodic sequences.

The arp in the beginning is not an arp, it's a long note. The synth is Serum, the "sequence" was made by modulating the warp amount (iirc it was some of the "sync" modes) by chaos synced to 1/8. The same sound later runs trough a simple trancegate.

The sequence at 1:00 is Viper, I don't remember the exact patch settings as I've made that patch a while back, but i think it uses the Viper's own arp with arp velocities linked to various things (rate reducer apparently and maybe resonance) and some LFO.

Lots of delays over everything, of course

Unreflected · Post by **Unreflected** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:29 pm

Just fantastic.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:11 pm

Thank you!

amrita · Post by **amrita** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:54 pm

Some lovely acid sounds in there. Fantastic stuff man. Is that all software or is there any hardware used in that? Whatever, it sounds great, uplifting and trippy :0

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:31 pm

Thanks!

amrita wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:54 pm Is that all software or is there any hardware used in that?

All software - Viper, Phoscyon, Spire, Serum, Sylenth and some bits from U-He synths.

Safe Travels [oldschool melodic psytrance]