Chord progression or melody ?
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- KVRist
- 95 posts since 21 Apr, 2020
How do you guys find a melody?
When I start a track, I choose a scale, chord progression consists of 4 chords , I take the upper 4 notes and I make a bassline. It's just doesn't sound new or catchy it's sound normal , but when I trying finding melody with only notes, that works! But I can't go on from there because I have no idea which scales am I in and even if I knew that I couldn't think what should I do next?
When I start a track, I choose a scale, chord progression consists of 4 chords , I take the upper 4 notes and I make a bassline. It's just doesn't sound new or catchy it's sound normal , but when I trying finding melody with only notes, that works! But I can't go on from there because I have no idea which scales am I in and even if I knew that I couldn't think what should I do next?
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
- KVRAF
- 11000 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere
If you have a chord progression you already have at least one melody. It's going to sound bland because you are playing a bass line that is in unison with the uppermost voice.
thecontrolcentre is right - the question above makes me think you would be better off starting with some study of theory.
thecontrolcentre is right - the question above makes me think you would be better off starting with some study of theory.
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- KVRian
- 1005 posts since 1 Apr, 2002 from Spain
It´s not rare to come across people who want to make music because they like listening to it, but don´t necessarily have a call for it. But if you have melodic ideas, then you probably do have a call and indeed should start studying the theory.
Some would say that you just need to throw some chords together and if you like it yourself, then all is good. That´s a great advise, but only if your music is not ment to reach anybody beyond your headphones.
Some would say that you just need to throw some chords together and if you like it yourself, then all is good. That´s a great advise, but only if your music is not ment to reach anybody beyond your headphones.
Best Regards
Roman Empire
Roman Empire
- KVRAF
- 11000 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere
It's not common to start with chords without either an understanding or ear for melody. Chords are (generally speaking) the result of harmonizing melodies, so finding a good melody usually comes first. Once you have an ear for it either can come first, but my suggestion would be to work on melody first rather than go straight to putting chord sequences together.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 95 posts since 21 Apr, 2020
I completely agree with you that's why I found these chords no sense to my ear it's not something to listen toRoman Empire wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 5:01 pm It´s not rare to come across people who want to make music because they like listening to it, but don´t necessarily have a call for it. But if you have melodic ideas, then you probably do have a call and indeed should start studying the theory.
Some would say that you just need to throw some chords together and if you like it yourself, then all is good. That´s a great advise, but only if your music is not ment to reach anybody beyond your headphones.
I believe that music is a higher level of art and not to be ruled by music theory or chord progression although I feel it's importance at a beginning. but you go into youtube and you see all people say start with chords so I gave it a try and it's no sense
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 95 posts since 21 Apr, 2020
I will try reverse the process and play with melodies first then put chords laterForgotten wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 5:07 pm It's not common to start with chords without either an understanding or ear for melody. Chords are (generally speaking) the result of harmonizing melodies, so finding a good melody usually comes first. Once you have an ear for it either can come first, but my suggestion would be to work on melody first rather than go straight to putting chord sequences together.
it does make sense but I saw famouse insisting on chords first Idk maybe it's suitable for the pros
- addled muppet weed
- 111245 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
start with an idea.
- KVRAF
- 11000 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere
That seems to be something that there's more of in recent years than in the past, but just because someone famous does things one way, it doesn't make it the best way to do things. They may be doing it because they have developed a good ear for it over time, but in general that's not a typical approach.vercitti wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 6:23 pm it does make sense but I saw famouse insisting on chords first Idk maybe it's suitable for the pros
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- KVRian
- 1005 posts since 1 Apr, 2002 from Spain
Certainly what you should do. There´s no more pro way than others as long as you what you do sounds right. Trying to make a melody after chords may for many give very forced and stiff results, but alot of popular music DOES sound stiff and forced.vercitti wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 6:23 pmI will try reverse the process and play with melodies first then put chords laterForgotten wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 5:07 pm It's not common to start with chords without either an understanding or ear for melody. Chords are (generally speaking) the result of harmonizing melodies, so finding a good melody usually comes first. Once you have an ear for it either can come first, but my suggestion would be to work on melody first rather than go straight to putting chord sequences together.
it does make sense but I saw famouse insisting on chords first Idk maybe it's suitable for the pros
Best Regards
Roman Empire
Roman Empire