Minor Key formula?

[argo30]

Hi folks. Learning some theory. Quick question. I know the Major key formula is:

Major
Minor
Minor
Major
Major
Major
Dim

What's the minor key formula? That might not be the right term . Anyway, looking for the minor equivalent of the above. Thanks!

[argo30]

I think I finally found this....

Minor - Dim - Major - Minor - Minor - Major - Major

Right?

[vurt]

yup, theyre your chords for minor

[vurt]

Hi folks. Learning some theory. Quick question. I know the Major key formula is:

Major
Minor
Minor
Major
Major
Major
Dim

What's the minor key formula? That might not be the right term . Anyway, looking for the minor equivalent of the above. Thanks!

that one is minor.

if we look at c and a minor. they cintain same notes, same chords.

c major d min e min f maj g maj a min b dim.

as you can see
your 1 in c major, will become your 3 in a minor.

[argo30]

Hi folks. Learning some theory. Quick question. I know the Major key formula is:

Major
Minor
Minor
Major
Major
Major
Dim

What's the minor key formula? That might not be the right term . Anyway, looking for the minor equivalent of the above. Thanks!

that one is minor.

if we look at c and a minor. they cintain same notes, same chords.

c major d min e min f maj g maj a min b dim.

as you can see
your 1 in c major, will become your 3 in a minor.

Whoops. Yeah that Major was a typo. Actually knew that haha. Thank you!

[Forgotten]

It’s basically the same as the Major if you start on the 6th diatonic degree for the natural minor. However, it’s more common to use the harmonic minor so you get a V rather than a v.

[The Noodlist]

Hi folks. Learning some theory. Quick question. I know the Major key formula is:

Major
Minor
Minor
Major
Major
Major
Dim

What's the minor key formula? That might not be the right term . Anyway, looking for the minor equivalent of the above. Thanks!

m7b5 - half diminished - ø7, diminished (7th) is different, it has a bb7th.
And the 5th chord is dominant to create a perfect cadence to the tonic, a major with a minor 7th.

[fmr]

Hi folks. Learning some theory. Quick question. I know the Major key formula is:

Major
Minor
Minor
Major
Major
Major
Dim

What's the minor key formula? That might not be the right term . Anyway, looking for the minor equivalent of the above. Thanks!

m7b5 - half diminished - ø7, diminished (7th) is different, it has a bb7th.
And the 5th chord is dominant to create a perfect cadence to the tonic, a major with a minor 7th.

The chord built over the leading-tone is perhaps the most noticeable difference between Major and minor modes (harmonically speaking).

In Major mode, that chord has a diminished fifth and a minor seventh - it's called (in classic nomenclature) the leading-tone seventh. It has a minor third and a diminished fifth, while the dominant seventh has a major third and a perfect fifth, both sharing the minor seventh.

However, in minor mode, the chord built over the (raised) seventh degree (the leading-tone) presents not only a diminished fifth but also a diminished seventh. This chord may be considered enharmonic of an augmented sixth chord (actually, also the dominant seventh may enharmonize with an augmented sixth).

One of its most interesting characteristics is the fact it is absolutely symmetric (since it's a row of minor thirds, no matter which inversion it is, we may look at it as the fundamental of one particular diminished seventh). This means that ANY note of the chord can take the role of leading note, allowing this way to modulate to distant tonalities in a very easy way.

[Yohan73]

Hi,
You should first think about scales degrees, not in major / minor terms which are related to the scale's degrees.
Each note in a scale has a degree number given by its place in the scale (easy).
Each note / degree in a scale gives you a chord (the fundamental, the 5rd and the 5th + the 7th or the 9th are the basics) using the scale's notes. And these note will give you a major or a minor chord. It is very important you understand this basic.
Then you have some degrees formulas like 1-5-6-4, etc .... the way chords are built comes after to make you chords more interesting depending on what your tracks need. Sometimes it is better to keep them simple, sometimes it is best to enrich them.

Hope this helps

[BertKoor]

Hi folks. Learning some theory. Quick question. I know the Major key formula is:

Major
Minor
Minor
Major
Major
Major
Dim

What's the minor key formula? That might not be the right term . Anyway, looking for the minor equivalent of the above. Thanks!

Where did you get this formula from? Because I dont get it, I don't know what it means, I don't even know where to start.

I do know the major key / scale of C is all the white keys: C D E F G A B C.
Counting steps including the black keys:
C-D = 2
D-E = 2
E-F = 1
F-G = 2
G-A = 2
A-B = 2
B-C = 1

So I was expecting your formula to be maybe Maj Maj Min Maj Maj Maj Min, but it's not. And what's that Dim?

I mean, I thought I knew music theory, keys & scales, but here you're talking a completely different language. Which ultimately means: we have trouble getting a simple message across.

[Forgotten]

Hi,
You should first think about scales degrees, not in major / minor terms which are related to the scale's degrees.
Each note in a scale has a degree number given by its place in the scale (easy).
Each note / degree in a scale gives you a chord (the fundamental, the 5rd and the 5th + the 7th or the 9th are the basics) using the scale's notes. And these note will give you a major or a minor chord. It is very important you understand this basic.

You won’t always get a 5th, as sometimes it can be flattened, so you don’t always get only Major or minor chords.

Essentially chords are built from stacked thirds, and those thirds can be Major or minor 3rd intervals, so for triads, there are 4 variants. In reality only Major, minor and diminished chords appear in the diatonic chords built on that scale, but it’s also possible to form an augmented chord from two stacked Major 3rds.

I wouldn’t have said that 9th’s are “the basics”, as they are extended chords, and if you’re going to include 9ths you should include 11th’s and 13th’s.

7th’s are more common, and play a bigger role in music (particularly the V7), but if you’re going to start talking 7th’s then it should be in the context of building the various 7th’s for each diatonic chord for a scale.