How do commercial artists find/make their KICK drums??! They kick completely different than in sample libraries!!!

[vurt]

eddie shit?

https://youtu.be/LBhlaaacZjQ

[Forgotten]

eddie shit?

https://youtu.be/LBhlaaacZjQ

"Here am I shitting in a tin can"

[excuse me please]

@an-electric-heart

Layering the same sample does not create phase issues afaik. It's called "summing." The Haas effect also can thicken the sound.

https://www.musicradar.com/tuition/tech ... rum-639056

[Unaspected]

@an-electric-heart

Layering the same sample does not create phase issues afaik. It's called "summing." The Haas effect also can thicken the sound.

https://www.musicradar.com/tuition/tech ... rum-639056

You're applying the Haas effect to bass sounds? That's where your phase issues are.

[an-electric-heart]

@an-electric-heart

Layering the same sample does not create phase issues afaik. It's called "summing." The Haas effect also can thicken the sound.

https://www.musicradar.com/tuition/tech ... rum-639056

But that tutorial says what I said... not what you said. I said; use two kick samples with different tones and blend them, they're saying use "two or three"... yes, that's fine. You're saying layer the exact same sample six times.
You're technique doesn't sound like it would work... but I haven't tried it, so maybe it does, we'll leave it at that.

[DJ Warmonger]

@an-electric-heart

The Haas effect also can thicken the sound.

https://www.musicradar.com/tuition/tech ... rum-639056

Just this weekend I have shown Haas effect is a disaster.
https://youtu.be/LcAcmBKryxE?t=199

Especially on kick. I mean, it's so terrible idea it's not even funny.

[BertKoor]

Naah, you just haven't found the secret setting yet where it sounds golden.
Maybe there's a secret society keeping it from us, the Human Leak or whatever..

[Jorgeelalto]

@an-electric-heart

Layering the same sample does not create phase issues afaik. It's called "summing." The Haas effect also can thicken the sound.

https://www.musicradar.com/tuition/tech ... rum-639056

Layering the same sample makes it just sound louder, you might as well turn up the gain.

[an-electric-heart]

@an-electric-heart

Layering the same sample does not create phase issues afaik. It's called "summing." The Haas effect also can thicken the sound.

https://www.musicradar.com/tuition/tech ... rum-639056

Layering the same sample makes it just sound louder, you might as well turn up the gain.

You could try layering the same sample, but you'd need to process them completely differently with distortion and such... But even then, if you don't put the out of time, I still reckon you're going to have problems with phasing, and putting a bunch of kicks out of time would ruin the attack.

[lonnyman]

Kicks are usually simpler than it seems. It’s all the processing around that makes the difference (sub bass, harmonics on tops, master compression...)

[lullashawn]

Sometimes when I want to add extra frequencies to a kick drum I run an extra track of noise (tape hiss, vinyl crackles, etc) on another track with a gate effect side-chained to only open up when the kick gets hit. That way you get some of those extra textures but they come in slightly differently each time (unlike if you just triggered them together with each kick hit in your drum machine. But, to be super honest, I'm not great at making drums sound good so take it with a grain of salt. High fives.

[Eclectrophonic]

I havnt really Investigated, but it wouldn't surprise me if even the snares, hihats, and vocals are all different in registers too

So go and do investigate. Did you actually check your kicks with spectrum analyzer and oscilloscope? That may give you an insight how they are supposed to look, at least.

Is this a really good technique is it?

[DJ Warmonger]

I havnt really Investigated, but it wouldn't surprise me if even the snares, hihats, and vocals are all different in registers too

So go and do investigate. Did you actually check your kicks with spectrum analyzer and oscilloscope? That may give you an insight how they are supposed to look, at least.

Is this a really good technique is it?

What else? Blind guess?

I recently found out that my 15 tracks signed at that point didn't quite have perfect kick-bass relation. Now I know why, and what is the right way

[excuse me please]

Ok, the Haas effect on the kick is maybe not such a good idea. I ended up with 2 kicks; one parallel compressed.

[vurt]

op got in to it with dre, when dre gave the same advice we all did.
op is now on the run as dre is gonna brap brap brap him like a 187 boo ya!
(i dont speak rap, but ive heard it)