Differences in volume between stereo and mono - how to compensate them?
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 28 posts since 30 Oct, 2017
I making melodic techno/house. When I check them in mono they sound good but are a bit quieter than in stereo. Sometimes when I listen to commercial productions and I switching to mono, I completely do not feel the difference in volume. What should I do to compensate for the volume between stereo and mono?
Thanks a lot
Thanks a lot
- KVRAF
- 4590 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
...mix in mono? And don't overdo your stereo width.
I just made two videos about this issue:
https://youtu.be/3Sdivir_OhA
https://youtu.be/LcAcmBKryxE
And plan to do some more, as it's a very common issue.
I just made two videos about this issue:
https://youtu.be/3Sdivir_OhA
https://youtu.be/LcAcmBKryxE
And plan to do some more, as it's a very common issue.
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- KVRist
- 122 posts since 29 Dec, 2003
Here is another series of three videos well worth watching on the subject, and which should help:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... yKFeWBNEhc
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... yKFeWBNEhc
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 28 posts since 30 Oct, 2017
thanks guys!
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 28 posts since 30 Oct, 2017
I analyzed the movies. The problem in my case is spatial effects - especially reverbs. It is the reverbs that disappear in mono that makes me feel the lower volume in mono. The guy from Fabfilter suggests limiting the width in reverberation on tracks where reverb is very important. The problem is that I have two reverbs from Eventide, which I love and they don't have a slider that can limit the stereo. How best to do this? Use a tool like iZotope Imager?
- KVRAF
- 1802 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc
Anything which can limit the amount of Side information or even collapse it to more mono if available. You didnt say your DAW but in Live, Utility is excellent for limiting the width of reverbs or delays. Much usedtechnobuka wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 10:50 pm I analyzed the movies. The problem in my case is spatial effects - especially reverbs. It is the reverbs that disappear in mono that makes me feel the lower volume in mono. The guy from Fabfilter suggests limiting the width in reverberation on tracks where reverb is very important. The problem is that I have two reverbs from Eventide, which I love and they don't have a slider that can limit the stereo. How best to do this? Use a tool like iZotope Imager?
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- KVRAF
- 4711 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder
100% L or R traditional panning will drop in volume when mono'd. Even just pulling it back to 90% makes all the difference. For important instruments this is key.
I put ISOL8 (free) on the master and do all stereo stuff with frequent Mono checking.
For unimportant instruments like pads or background noise, then don't worry about the drop in volume unless they are vital to the energy of the track. You can even have stuff like whitenoise fully phase inverted so it's super wide in stereo and yet completely disappears in mono. Too bad about the vinyl cutter
I put ISOL8 (free) on the master and do all stereo stuff with frequent Mono checking.
For unimportant instruments like pads or background noise, then don't worry about the drop in volume unless they are vital to the energy of the track. You can even have stuff like whitenoise fully phase inverted so it's super wide in stereo and yet completely disappears in mono. Too bad about the vinyl cutter