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Spring Goose wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 11:11 am I think Marvel GEQ is causing comb-filtering when i export the song on Reason 10.4. It isn't during playback, it's only when i bounce/export it.
I did a process of elimination to determine which plug, if any, is/are causing the comb filtering.
Mike Senior in "Mixing secrets for the small studio" says about it "thing to be aware of with parallel compression .. is that you can easily run into comb-filtering problems if the compressor delays the processed signal. This is an ever-present danger in digital systems where analog-to-digital conversion and DSP processing both have the potential to incur short latency delays. .. it nonetheless pays to be aware that some plug-ins don't declare their latency to the host software properly"
Apparently it's Marvel GEQ causing the comb-filtering, because when i bypass Marvel GEQ the problem is fixed.
Not only with compression but any plugin which introduces latency. You will need to compensate for this manually if your DAW doesn't have automatic PDC. Though, even with automatic PDC, if the system doesn't allow for separate delay of sends then you might have to insert additional channels just to control latency if you are processing more than one parallel channel. For example: If you have a group buss and separate reverb or other effect buss in parallel.

Spring Goose wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 12:47 pm
wagtunes wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 12:38 pm No offense, but I can train a 5 year old to do better. Is it laziness? Is it lack of music theory? Is it a combination of the two? Or do you simply just enjoy creating throw-away sound?
It was you who point out that my mixdowns were crap. That was 3 weeks ago, i've read 2 books and my mixdowns are improved.
I've got 2 books with music theory that i'm reading. Maybe i'm just not a quick learner.
Nothing to do with your speed of learning. Reading books and absorbing ideas online is one thing but experience from applying knowledge and experimenting is another - and that takes time. You need to give yourself a break if you've only started learning a couple of years ago. That isn't long at all. No one should expect you to be producing at a commercial level yet - not to mention that many who do work in teams. A common figure, often quoted, is around 10 years to gain enough experience to be proficient at what you do.

So just hang in there. Stay interested and hungry.

Sitting down and analysing some songs might be beneficial. Listen to a tune on loop and break it down into sections, noting what is happening during each section. Try and make it as detailed as possible and also note anything that you don't understand yet. Listen to subtle variations used - as a number of people in this thread have suggested - which might be overlooked by a casual listener but are vital to the overall feel of a track.

Most of all, enjoy the process.

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Yeah, with only two yrs and you work around a day job or whatever, yer expectations should not be very high.

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Unaspected wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 7:58 pm
Sitting down and analysing some songs might be beneficial. Listen to a tune on loop and break it down into sections, noting what is happening during each section. Try and make it as detailed as possible and also note anything that you don't understand yet. Listen to subtle variations used - as a number of people in this thread have suggested - which might be overlooked by a casual listener but are vital to the overall feel of a track.

Most of all, enjoy the process.
Thanks mate.

You're the third person or fourth person to suggest it, so i reckon that's what i should do.

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I was mistaken about having 400 songs on my Soundcloud. I have 264 songs, 4 are a DJmix.

https://soundcloud.com/ user-492255322/techno-all-songs-by-spring-goose

https://soundcloud.com/ user-492255322/2019-12-04-21h01m45

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It's very nice. But imho you needed the new element at 16 seconds not 32. You don't bring in the next new element until 63ish when it probably should come in at 32. You could add some drum fills.
I'm not sure about the ghostly pad turn but ok. Decent breakdown. The weird pad is growing on me....

It's sounds very very nice. Still a tad repetitive. The drums could be more interesting. Try actually playing them by hand the whole way and see if you find yourself wanting to add some variation. Some fills at least...?

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empphryio wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 5:14 pm It's very nice. But imho you needed the new element at 16 seconds not 32. You don't bring in the next new element until 63ish when it probably should come in at 32. You could add some drum fills.
I'm not sure about the ghostly pad turn but ok. Decent breakdown. The weird pad is growing on me....

It's sounds very very nice. Still a tad repetitive. The drums could be more interesting. Try actually playing them by hand the whole way and see if you find yourself wanting to add some variation. Some fills at least...?
Thanks Empphryio. :D

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empphryio wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 5:14 pm
I'm not sure about the ghostly pad turn but ok. Decent breakdown. The weird pad is growing on me....
it's reminiscent to me as like an accordion

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Spring Goose wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 5:04 pm Is this boring?

https://soundcloud.com/user-492255322/l ... fQ5IW0RkYj
I thought i'd share the influences of my track.

The Chemical Brothers - The Pills Won't Help You Now
https://youtu.be/UJIuQ4BbWBo

From Solomun #GU40 Hamburg:

Mooryc - Simply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHiz0-5V51Y

Jonas Mantey - Sie Ist Schoen
https://youtu.be/fuoL0kn7hKo

DJ Phono - New Year Eve
https://youtu.be/AX4P2jd29sU

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I think the complainers don't like my genre and were being antagonistic. I was just outside listening to some cds then i came in and listened to some of my songs and it sounds not too bad.

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Passing Bye wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 5:29 pm This grooves tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqz8c4ZP3Wg
I watched 3 minutes, it's cheesey.

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Spring Goose wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:35 pm
Passing Bye wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 5:29 pm This grooves tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqz8c4ZP3Wg
I watched 3 minutes, it's cheesey.
Something similar but not cheesey: Sasha Fabric 99 which i just listened to.

https://youtu.be/B2S7tD702q8

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I think that is playing a role. Complaints for yours are that not a lot is happening and it's repetitive. But I guess to an extent that's how minimalist techno is. I don't think they were slamming you just for fun though.

I have written a lot of music that no one but me likes by the way. (I don't have it on soundcloud.) So I know the feeling.

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empphryio wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:46 pm I think that is playing a role. Complaints for yours are that not a lot is happening and it's repetitive. But I guess to an extent that's how minimalist techno is. I don't think they were slamming you just for fun though.

I have written a lot of music that no one but me likes by the way. (I don't have it on soundcloud.) So I know the feeling.
Thanks mate. I meant to say "I don't mean i don't have room for improvement though, and interest/excitement is something which could be improved" but i forgot to say it!

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