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A.M. Gold · Post by **A.M. Gold** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:13 pm

Hey guys. I'm new to using FM synths and I just started using NI's FM8. There's a preset called 3 Osc Filter Sweep that I really like but I wanted to cut the sweep or the resonance down to make it a bit more tame. But I can't find a filter control page anywhere on there. Am I missing something or is this kind of thing done in a totally different way than on a subtractive synth?

TIA,
Dave

ew · Post by ew » Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:24 pm

Operator Z's your filter.

ew

A.M. Gold · Post by **A.M. Gold** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:44 pm

Ok, thanks, I'll check it out.

xx JPRacer xx · Post by **xx JPRacer xx** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:40 pm

In a pure FM synth there's no filter. You control brightness by changing modulation depth between modulators and carriers. But in the case of FM8 there's a filter, probably in the Z operator (I think there's a noise gen here too) like ew said, I don't have FM8.

Kwurqx · Post by **Kwurqx** » Fri May 29, 2020 5:48 pm

xx JPRacer xx wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:40 pm In a pure FM synth there's no filter. You control brightness by changing modulation depth between modulators and carriers. But in the case of FM8 there's a filter, probably in the Z operator (I think there's a noise gen here too) like ew said, I don't have FM8.

For those who live on a dime....a poor man's FM8

Oxe FM (6 fm operators, 2 filters)
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/oxe-fm ... e-software

If you feel like giving it more or other waveshapes or add features: it's open source on Github.
https://github.com/oxesoft/oxefmsynth

xx JPRacer xx · Post by **xx JPRacer xx** » Fri May 29, 2020 8:00 pm

Man! I received a notification that someone quoted me. I checked and didn't remember saying that recently.... july 2009, almost 11 years ago! Hey, I have FM8 now (Komplete)!

Calenberger · Post by **Calenberger** » Fri May 29, 2020 8:03 pm

By the way: is FM8 still the best FM synth?
Or are there better alternatives?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri May 29, 2020 8:08 pm

I'm almost embarassed that I never tried out FM8 although I own it through Komplete.

Calenberger · Post by **Calenberger** » Fri May 29, 2020 8:12 pm

I sometimes did and was all the time positively surprised.
But the small GUI (at least on my system) is not realy inviting.
I'll try again.
In principle I like FM sounds: often crisp and clear and not so dirty as this analog fad stuff.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri May 29, 2020 8:20 pm

I like some FM sounds as well. I was always a bit put off by the synthesis though. Not really my cup of tea, but, I'll give FM8 a try one day. I'm sure it's a cool synth.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Fri May 29, 2020 8:24 pm

chk071 wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 8:08 pm I'm almost embarassed that I never tried out FM8 although I own it through Komplete.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri May 29, 2020 8:28 pm

I know.

Calenberger · Post by **Calenberger** » Fri May 29, 2020 8:30 pm

vurt wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 8:24 pm

The German has a nice word for this:
Zuchtmeister
Don't even try to pronounce it, you'll fail.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Fri May 29, 2020 9:09 pm

Arturia DX7 V has a resonant multimode filter in each of the 6 operators. The mod matrix allows to modulate the Cutoff and Resonance of the 6 filters.

Ableton Operator has a multimode filter with a "Clean" model and 4 analog filter models (created by Andrew Simper).

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri May 29, 2020 9:14 pm

Scary thought that vurt could be my Zuchtmeister.

Great term by the way. Didn't know that one yet.

Filter effects on an FM Synth (FM8)