i've owned so many synth plugins over the years, it's insane. but i've never had issues like i've had with massive X.
i like this thing; the sound of it, the possibilities; i enjoy exploring the GUI. i love the browser (ok, i made that last one up).
i've had some issues with sounds changing. today, i opened a logic project and the main sound (an massive X preset i tweaked and SAVED) is not playing back correctly. it sounds like... nothing, really.
i reworked the original again (which i only got to play back correctly AFTER going back & forth between other presets and this one); saved again. closed logic, reopened it and... hosed.
sure i could bounce it to disk, but... i can't trust this thing, and have no time anymore to 'hope' for a fix (try contacting NI tech support, if you can find them).
so... adios. i don't care how good something sounds, if it doesn't work.
why i'm abandoning massive X...
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3338 posts since 6 Aug, 2009
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- KVRAF
- 4590 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
Probably a issue with Logic then.
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- Banned
- 1792 posts since 8 Sep, 2019 from Calenberg
Never had a problem with Massive X in Logic Pro...
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3338 posts since 6 Aug, 2009
maybe. i had this happen in an earlier version of MX, got to NI support, never heard about it again. and all my other plugins are ok (i've literally owned or demo'd almost every synth plugin out there... almostDJ Warmonger wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 12:04 pm It works for me.jpg
Probably a issue with Logic then.
)wherever the issue is, i can't count on it, and can't risk it anymore. so it goes...
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- KVRAF
- 2641 posts since 23 Jun, 2006 from Hungary
Maybe you can try to get some feedback from NI about this problem ... I mean if korg support can answer,(my experience) it's sure NI could answer too.fisherKing wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 11:38 am i've owned so many synth plugins over the years, it's insane. but i've never had issues like i've had with massive X.
i like this thing; the sound of it, the possibilities; i enjoy exploring the GUI. i love the browser (ok, i made that last one up).
i've had some issues with sounds changing. today, i opened a logic project and the main sound (an massive X preset i tweaked and SAVED) is not playing back correctly. it sounds like... nothing, really.
i reworked the original again (which i only got to play back correctly AFTER going back & forth between other presets and this one); saved again. closed logic, reopened it and... hosed.
sure i could bounce it to disk, but... i can't trust this thing, and have no time anymore to 'hope' for a fix (try contacting NI tech support, if you can find them).
so... adios. i don't care how good something sounds, if it doesn't work.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3338 posts since 6 Aug, 2009
i had someone from this forum contact NI directly, with details about what happened last time (& audio samples, images). never heard back (from NI, not the person here).
have no time for this, i can use other plugins. and just my experience; others have not had this issue (with MX, or MX in logic).
will prob just sell my license here on kvr, and get back to work.
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- KVRist
- 395 posts since 6 May, 2020
Some people run into interesting issues that seem to be per person basis and not really that consistent. It might be the DAW, the hardware you use, anything. The best thing you can probably do is give it some time, leave it and return later to give it a second chance with it hopefully more extensively optimised.
Take care 
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- KVRAF
- 4351 posts since 30 Aug, 2012 from Sweden
Honestly who cares if you abandon Massive X. "Yawn"fisherKing wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 11:38 am i've owned so many synth plugins over the years, it's insane. but i've never had issues like i've had with massive X.
i like this thing; the sound of it, the possibilities; i enjoy exploring the GUI. i love the browser (ok, i made that last one up).
i've had some issues with sounds changing. today, i opened a logic project and the main sound (an massive X preset i tweaked and SAVED) is not playing back correctly. it sounds like... nothing, really.
i reworked the original again (which i only got to play back correctly AFTER going back & forth between other presets and this one); saved again. closed logic, reopened it and... hosed.
sure i could bounce it to disk, but... i can't trust this thing, and have no time anymore to 'hope' for a fix (try contacting NI tech support, if you can find them).
so... adios. i don't care how good something sounds, if it doesn't work.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3338 posts since 6 Aug, 2009
haha. why post if you have nothing to say? sort-of the equivalent of my starting this thread...Daimonicon wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 1:47 pmHonestly who cares if you abandon Massive X. "Yawn"fisherKing wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 11:38 am i've owned so many synth plugins over the years, it's insane. but i've never had issues like i've had with massive X.
i like this thing; the sound of it, the possibilities; i enjoy exploring the GUI. i love the browser (ok, i made that last one up).
i've had some issues with sounds changing. today, i opened a logic project and the main sound (an massive X preset i tweaked and SAVED) is not playing back correctly. it sounds like... nothing, really.
i reworked the original again (which i only got to play back correctly AFTER going back & forth between other presets and this one); saved again. closed logic, reopened it and... hosed.
sure i could bounce it to disk, but... i can't trust this thing, and have no time anymore to 'hope' for a fix (try contacting NI tech support, if you can find them).
so... adios. i don't care how good something sounds, if it doesn't work.
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- addled muppet weed
- 105791 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
sounds like a broken synth.fisherKing wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 12:22 pm will prob just sell my license here on kvr, and get back to work.
ill give you a fiver, i can use it for parts in this condition.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3338 posts since 6 Aug, 2009
it'll be on the sell & buy forum later, for $100 US. or will trade for your car, computer, & dog (if u don't have a dog, get one... so we can trade).vurt wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 1:55 pmsounds like a broken synth.fisherKing wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 12:22 pm will prob just sell my license here on kvr, and get back to work.
ill give you a fiver, i can use it for parts in this condition.
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- KVRist
- 39 posts since 4 Mar, 2004
I had the same kind of issues with MX and Logic. When I switched over to Bitwig they all went away. Ported over songs and presets from one to the other with all the same plugins and settings, and suddenly songs that were crashing and doing other weird things were totally solid. So I'd say it's definitely some kind of Logic-MX interaction issue.
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
MX loses it's greatest advocate ha .
It looks like the algorithm to save a preset to disk f**ks up.
What I would do, just for fun.
1 Save the patch. Then while still in the same project, open an new instance of Mx and load the saved preset. See whether it sounds the same.
2 Save the preset multiple times. Then do a file compare to see whether both files are identical. Do this with a few presets.
1 will ensire that your sound is saved correctly before closing the project.
2 will give insights whether this is a consistent error or not. Examining the content of the file might give you insight where writing of the preset fails.
It may sound nice but it's such a pain to work with.
.It looks like the algorithm to save a preset to disk f**ks up.
What I would do, just for fun.
1 Save the patch. Then while still in the same project, open an new instance of Mx and load the saved preset. See whether it sounds the same.
2 Save the preset multiple times. Then do a file compare to see whether both files are identical. Do this with a few presets.
1 will ensire that your sound is saved correctly before closing the project.
2 will give insights whether this is a consistent error or not. Examining the content of the file might give you insight where writing of the preset fails.
It may sound nice but it's such a pain to work with.
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
