KVR Audio

Kinh · Post by **Kinh** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:22 pm

shit, i didn't think there were so many options

muki · Post by **muki** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:26 pm

+1 for polyverse

neverbeeninariot · Post by **neverbeeninariot** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:29 pm

https://joeysturgistones.com/products/sidewidener - currently £16 from JST, but it's also free if you purchased any recent-ish issue of Computer Music.

sleepcircle · Post by **sleepcircle** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:36 pm

izotope imager is pretty dang good considering how much it costs which is nothing

Daimonicon · Post by **Daimonicon** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:47 pm

Kinh wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:18 pm need something that dont produce no phasing issues. Also a short delay like the stock one in protools.

Why do you think you need widener? This is one of the most asked from beginners and it's one of the worst plugins that exist. No truly. You want something to sound wider? Make something else narrower in the mix.

Unaspected · Post by **Unaspected** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:49 pm

Daimonicon wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:47 pm
Kinh wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:18 pm need something that dont produce no phasing issues. Also a short delay like the stock one in protools.
Why do you think you need widener? This is one of the most asked from beginners and it's one of the worst plugins that exist. No truly. You want something to sound wider? Make something else narrower in the mix.

This.

Also.

Imbalance creates width. Many synths can or simply will produce variations on a signal with each instance. Nothing like hard panning to give a huge sense of width. Any natural sounding variation you can impart on these signals can improve the illusion. 2CAudio's Precedence can work well for this with a little tweaking.

True emulations of analogue processors can also help to impart subtle variation that should sum cleanly.

Then it might be best to create the stereo difference whilst monitoring in mono so that you can pay attention to obvious phase issues before switching back to stereo.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:54 pm

balance must be restored.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:41 pm

https://www.ableton.com/en/blog/beyond- ... ae28dab721

https://youtu.be/VSGYqvV4bTg

SoundPorn · Post by **SoundPorn** » Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:28 am

The best ones I saw is Raising Jakes Stereo Widener and Leapwig Audio Center Stage

Ah_Dziz · Post by **Ah_Dziz** » Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:51 am

I usually just use voxengo delay along with a M/S EQ if I want a nice artificial stereo effect. If there is already some stereo info in the signal, I find that a simple MSED type encoder/ decoder effect can bring the stereo out in a clean way. I don’t generally worry about mono compatibility anymore. I have had no problems with it on any project I have worked on in at least the past 10 years.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:35 am

Kinh wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:22 pm shit, i didn't think there were so many options

LMAO

ElevateAudio · Post by **ElevateAudio** » Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:44 am

muki wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:26 pm +1 for polyverse

The free Polyverse widener is garbage. It turns your audio into a phasy mess. It would be hard to find a worse widener.

ATN69 · Post by **ATN69** » Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:04 am

ElevateAudio wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:44 am
muki wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:26 pm +1 for polyverse
The free Polyverse widener is garbage. It turns your audio into a phasy mess. It would be hard to find a worse widener.

Really? ADSR doesn't agree with you and neither do I. Care to prove your point with some real facts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QEWbRmlwqo

ElevateAudio · Post by **ElevateAudio** » Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:13 am

ATN69 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:04 am
ElevateAudio wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:44 am
muki wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:26 pm +1 for polyverse
The free Polyverse widener is garbage. It turns your audio into a phasy mess. It would be hard to find a worse widener.
Really? ADSR doesn't agree with you and neither do I. Care to prove your point with some real facts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QEWbRmlwqo

Yeah heres a suggestion. Use your ears. Put it on a stereo audio file, increase the mix level and then tell me it doesn't turn into a phasy mess. If you can't hear it then there's no helping you.

Addendum: I put this piece of shit back on my computer after immediately trashing it after trying it originally, on the off chance they fixed it or there was something wrong on my end. Nope. Put a dry drum loop on with this and listen to it it turn your drum loop into a phase shifted mess with mix levels of higher than 50%. If you're looking for a phase shifter then in your in luck. Otherwise this thing is useless. Back to the trash it goes.

ericzang · Post by **ericzang** » Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:15 am

https://nugenaudio.com/stereoizer/

The nugen stereoizer surprised me by becoming my favorite widener so far. Previously it was the one in ozone. It can widen without obviously changing the frequency balance and sound quite natural, as well as giving a lot of control. Quite expensive normally, though I was able to get it on discount through the focusrite/novation plugin promos.

need a stereo widener