1 filter enough (as in Serum)?
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- 383 posts since 12 Mar, 2020 from Toilet, or on the way to toilet
How do you feel about synth having only 1 filter? Serum has 1 - well you can add 1 filter for the FX section but that's not the same as having 2 filters? I am just curious how much it effects sound designing if there is 1 filter compared to 2? I know you can do some stuff with 2 filters, but is there a work around for this with Serum?
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- 14985 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
Considering a wavetable can basically mimic a filter sweep, I’d say it’s less important, but in synths I have that have two, I do still find it useful. What I do like about Serum is that you can route an oscillator around the filter. It also has dual filter types, which is good enough for me.
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- KVRist
- 436 posts since 20 Aug, 2010
Apart from running in Paralell? What sounds are you trying to achieve with 2 filters? As quoted above you can render filter sweeps into the oscillators and do it all again unlimited times. The Eq section can also be used as a resonant filter.Tannaliini wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:25 pm How do you feel about synth having only 1 filter? Serum has 1 - well you can add 1 filter for the FX section but that's not the same as having 2 filters? I am just curious how much it effects sound designing if there is 1 filter compared to 2? I know you can do some stuff with 2 filters, but is there a work around for this with Serum?
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- 14985 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
Being able to run filters in parallel is pretty fun. My Pro 2 has two filters based on the Prophet 6 and OB-6 (Multimode) and not only can you choose either filter, or both, in series or parallel, you can modulate the blend between serial and parallel and modulate the topology of the multimode. Very interesting things can happen there.focusrite wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:08 pmApart from running in Paralell? What sounds are you trying to achieve with 2 filters? As quoted above you can render filter sweeps into the oscillators and do it all again unlimited times. The Eq section can also be used as a resonant filter.Tannaliini wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:25 pm How do you feel about synth having only 1 filter? Serum has 1 - well you can add 1 filter for the FX section but that's not the same as having 2 filters? I am just curious how much it effects sound designing if there is 1 filter compared to 2? I know you can do some stuff with 2 filters, but is there a work around for this with Serum?
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- KVRist
- 436 posts since 20 Aug, 2010
The OP said: "I know you can do some stuff with 2 filters"zerocrossing wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:14 pmBeing able to run filters in parallel is pretty fun. My Pro 2 has two filters based on the Prophet 6 and OB-6 (Multimode) and not only can you choose either filter, or both, in series or parallel, you can modulate the blend between serial and parallel and modulate the topology of the multimode. Very interesting things can happen there.focusrite wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:08 pmApart from running in Paralell? What sounds are you trying to achieve with 2 filters? As quoted above you can render filter sweeps into the oscillators and do it all again unlimited times. The Eq section can also be used as a resonant filter.Tannaliini wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:25 pm How do you feel about synth having only 1 filter? Serum has 1 - well you can add 1 filter for the FX section but that's not the same as having 2 filters? I am just curious how much it effects sound designing if there is 1 filter compared to 2? I know you can do some stuff with 2 filters, but is there a work around for this with Serum?
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gentleclockdivider gentleclockdivider https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=203660
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- 6103 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent
NO , 1 filter is not enough , you will never top the charts with just 1 filter
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- KVRAF
- 1877 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
Serum has 2 filters. But one is global vs. polyphonic.
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- KVRAF
- 25397 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
It's useful to have a second filter to use for sound shaping. For example, using a HP filter with resonance to shape the bass. That is per voice and not done in the FX section.focusrite wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:08 pmApart from running in Paralell? What sounds are you trying to achieve with 2 filters? As quoted above you can render filter sweeps into the oscillators and do it all again unlimited times. The Eq section can also be used as a resonant filter.Tannaliini wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:25 pm How do you feel about synth having only 1 filter? Serum has 1 - well you can add 1 filter for the FX section but that's not the same as having 2 filters? I am just curious how much it effects sound designing if there is 1 filter compared to 2? I know you can do some stuff with 2 filters, but is there a work around for this with Serum?
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Ok, in that case Serum with 1 filter works for me perfectly since I don't need to top chartsgentleclockdivider wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:34 pm NO , 1 filter is not enough , you will never top the charts with just 1 filter
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gentleclockdivider gentleclockdivider https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=203660
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- 6103 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent
Having everything in parallel makes life so much more interesting , and that's not just for filters
I just had an exquisite parallel lasagna , you can't even imagine how good it tasted
I just had an exquisite parallel lasagna , you can't even imagine how good it tasted
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- 722 posts since 19 Sep, 2007 from Germany
some time ago here in another thread was a discussion about the necessity of two filters and I posted, that I don't understand the advantage of two filters. But I forgot that I often use the second filter for modulation like a "macro" ...
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gentleclockdivider gentleclockdivider https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=203660
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- 6103 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent
well for starters , you can use 2 filters in serial , and using a high pass filter to add extra bass boost or cut the lows .
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