Hehe. It was over the course of some weeks/months. I could've just said months
Upcoming Synapse OB-Xa: Obsession
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- KVRAF
- 1767 posts since 20 Feb, 2003
- Banned
- 10729 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
very unlikely
after seeing many comparisons over the years, the majority of them tend to be, shall we say, flawed....
im not sure how many ppl have one, they seem to be fairly rare, so who knows what the comparisons will actually be...
- KVRAF
- 19788 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Opinion not based in fact....PAK wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:13 pm Also, many of the areas, where you find differences in emulations versus hardware, tend to be shared, regardless of what's being emulated, because it relates directly to the mathematical difficulty in approximating the behaviour.. such as with resonance.
Just reading what you wrote....PAK wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:13 pmit's all anyone else (than beta testers) have to form an opinion tooAs to the importance I attach to that, perhaps you're making many of your own assumptions about what I do and don't think.
-------PAK wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:32 pm I've yet to hear anything from Obsession which established it's doing anything special, with resonance, over and above what Arturia's effort does..
Yet you think OBsession needs that system to make Brass sounds. Got it....
No but pointing out what they should do like not judging a plugin before they even have a chance to test it is a public service.PAK wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:32 pmIt's not your place to tell other people what they can and can't do.
Absolutely, be critical all you want.....after you've actually tried the plugin. Complaining about it now is like complaining about your meal before it has even reached your table.PAK wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:32 pmPeople can also be critical, or point out advantages other things might have, without it being about "slagging" anything off..
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- KVRAF
- 1550 posts since 25 Sep, 2011
Look... at the moment, I don’t care if this thing is 100% an OB-Xa, or is a 98% percent failure. What I do know is that Obsession is awesome, regardless if it completely nails the OB-Xa or not. It’s a simple, easy, unique and beautiful sounding little synthesizer that feels and plays like a real instrument should, and while capturing the overall character and behavior of the Oberheim, it’s also way more capable than the OB-Xa ever was. It’s a fine job by Synapse. I’m sure the Arturia’s is as well. So, enjoy whatever.
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- KVRAF
- 19788 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Las Vegas has set the Over/Under at 15 posts after the demo is released before someone says "it doesn't sound like the hardware" no matter how much it does or how little the poster knows about the hardware.
I've got a stack on the Under.....
I've got a stack on the Under.....
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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- KVRAF
- 1767 posts since 20 Feb, 2003
You think it's only an opinion, that some areas where emulations struggle can often directly relate to the "mathematical difficulty" involved? Hmmm, ok...
Not what I said, but ok.Yet you think OBsession needs that system to make Brass sounds. Got it....
Except I never told anyone to do that, and what you're pointing out is nothing I'd disagree with. BTW Note the usage of yet and the specific context of hear, meaning related specifically to the audio demos. It means, amongst other things, that no conclusion has actually been drawn. Unfortunately, around this place, people read words and decide they can inject their own meanings and even intent into it.No but pointing out what they should do like not judging a plugin before they even have a chance to test it is a public service.![]()
The fact that you'd think people might need to be told the obvious (IE "Try for yourself") perhaps makes more of a statement about what you think of the intellect of others, in believing they require your very generous "public service"
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- KVRAF
- 9144 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
If there is an option to buy the beta, that would be cool
I hope devs make this option in the future (especially SA and u-he) to buy the beta without being a beta tester 
Using: Cubase Pro 15, Reason 13, Tascam US-4x4HR, MODX6, DM12D, LaunchKey 49, Yamaha guitar(Pacifica 612v) and bass (BB234) and some virtual instruments and synths.
- KVRAF
- 22876 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
FWIW, as someone who owned not 1 but 2 Oberheims, I think I'm more than qualified to make a comparison. The problem is, right now, there is NOTHING to compare it to.
So how about we just wait until we can actually get our hands on the damn thing before we start saying anything about one versus the other. At this point, it doesn't even make any sense.
And yes, I am very biased because I think ALL the Oberheim synths were the greatest sounding synths of the era. If Obsession falls short, I'll hear it.
But let me hear it FIRST before making that determination.
So how about we just wait until we can actually get our hands on the damn thing before we start saying anything about one versus the other. At this point, it doesn't even make any sense.
And yes, I am very biased because I think ALL the Oberheim synths were the greatest sounding synths of the era. If Obsession falls short, I'll hear it.
But let me hear it FIRST before making that determination.
- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
nvm
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- KVRAF
- 2623 posts since 20 Oct, 2014
I wish these vendors of hardware copies made in software actually would add a proper mod matrix as standard (because why not!!), plenty of LFOs and AHDSRs, and NOT COPYING THE HARDWARE LIMITATIONS, TOO. e.g. Repro1/5 could be a gigantic synth, but it only has one LFO etc.
Having more LFOs, randomizers, etc. the software could even sound more analog than the original.
Having more LFOs, randomizers, etc. the software could even sound more analog than the original.
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vitocorleone123 vitocorleone123 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=333504
- KVRAF
- 2489 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW
I have a hardware synth with one LFO. Any time I want more, I just use my iPhone or my DAW and to add them and then I have as many as I want. Or I use a different synth.Hanz Meyzer wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:37 pm I wish these vendors of hardware copies made in software actually would add a proper mod matrix as standard (because why not!!), plenty of LFOs and AHDSRs, and NOT COPYING THE HARDWARE LIMITATIONS, TOO. e.g. Repro1/5 could be a gigantic synth, but it only has one LFO etc.
Having more LFOs, randomizers, etc. the software could even sound more analog than the original.
I do agree that a “modern mode” would be great on emulations of classic gear - like Arturia or PluginAlliance have sort of done... or even U-He with the panel below.
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- KVRAF
- 1767 posts since 20 Feb, 2003
Perhaps. Memory can be a strange thing..wagtunes wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:33 pm FWIW, as someone who owned not 1 but 2 Oberheims, I think I'm more than qualified to make a comparison.
Maybe "try" would be the better wordBut let me hear it FIRST before making that determination.
