LMAO. Well son of a gun. Something we agree on.BONES wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:48 am Pathetic. Rather than engage in a reasonable discussion, you just want to throw all your pieces off the board. That tells me you have nothing and that you can't even admit that you "just like that sound". i.e. It's not good enough for you that you like it, you have to believe that it is actually, measurably better. Do you not see how stupid that is?
Don't feel bad, though, you are hardly on your own in that mindset. Donald Trump is like that, too.
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If you can't hear the sonic difference between an all analog poly synth and your dozens of digital virtual instruments, then there's nothing reasonable to discuss.BONES wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:48 am Pathetic. Rather than engage in a reasonable discussion, you just want to throw all your pieces off the board. That tells me you have nothing and that you can't even admit that you "just like that sound". i.e. It's not good enough for you that you like it, you have to believe that it is actually, measurably better. Do you not see how stupid that is?
Don't feel bad, though, you are hardly on your own in that mindset. Donald Trump is like that, too.
You hear it or you don't.
I asked if any of the beta testers could recreate the same sound, so why didn't you speak with an example instead of your rants ?
Ingonator just posted about 20 pad sounds and none of them sounds close to analog or Oberheim.
Your turn !
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Well i disagree with you there.christian f. wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:45 am Ingonator just posted about 20 pad sounds and none of them sounds close to analog or Oberheim.
Your turn !
Anyway those patches in the demos were created with all features available in OBsession and several of them would be indeed not possible with a real OB-Xa. So what you heve there is OBsession and not the raw OB-Xa while the OBsession synth engine is indeed based on the OB-Xa (and some additional stuff...).
I prefered posting my on patches in those demos instead of recreating some pads someone was suggesting here.
Even if you provide patch sheets of your OB patches it would still be a bit dificult to properly replicate the patches as the OB-Xa/OB-8 did not have any labels around the knobs to provide the actual values for the parameters. IMHO this was a very bad design in the original synth.
All you could do with the those patch sheets is roughly guess the knob positions.
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christian f. wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:45 am
Ingonator just posted about 20 pad sounds and none of them sounds close to analog or Oberheim.
(i havent heard them....)
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Ingonator wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:59 amWell i disagree with you there.christian f. wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:45 am Ingonator just posted about 20 pad sounds and none of them sounds close to analog or Oberheim.
Your turn !
Anyway those patches were created with all features available in OBsession and several of them would be indeed not possible with a real OB-Xa. So what you heve there is OBsession and not the OB-Xa while the OBsession synth engine is indeed based on the OB-Xa (and some additional stuff...).
I prefered posting my on patches in those demos instead of recreating some pads someone was suggesting here.
Even if you provide patch sheets of your OB patches it would still be a bit dificult to properly replicate the patches as the OB-Xa/OB-8 did not have any labels around the knobs to provide the actual values for the parameters. IMHO this was a very bad design in the original synth.
All you could do with the those patch sheets is roughly guess the knob positions.
or use your ears and tweak it....
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The only way i see to provide proper parameter values from a real OB-Xa is using a MIDIfied version and a dedicated editor software. IIRC the OB-8 has built-in MIDI anyway.
I got Midi Quest 10 XL here (an older version of Midi Quest) and this also seems to include an OB-8 editor. I can load the editor but don't have the hardware to actually use it wih the synth.
I got Midi Quest 10 XL here (an older version of Midi Quest) and this also seems to include an OB-8 editor. I can load the editor but don't have the hardware to actually use it wih the synth.
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YOUR ears:
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Does eating these help you identify bum notes?
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+1, and the right approach. I'm skipping any new thread for similar reasons - There are better ways to waste time.christian f. wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:11 am I just deleted my responses ....
I truly hope OBsession is gonna be great and a success ... especially for Synapse.
If anyone dares to say anything, perceived as negative, then please do enjoy the ensuing butt-hurt on the devs behalf, to the point where some might just totally make crap up in order to give themselves something to bitch about
But at least we all learned you can easily replace an OB-8 with a dozen different VST's, which is exactly the sort of valuable info you'd hope to discover on KVR. There's always that
Obsession will speak for itself. If you care about the OB-XA angle, and consider it good enough to spare you buying the Behringer clone (much less going down the $$$$ vintage route) then that's fantastic. If it helps move emulation quality forward, that's great, and is actually the only thing I'm interested in personally. Though, to offer a different perspective, I'm way more hyped about TC's release of their Master X and Brickwall limiter yesterday, since I use the hardware.
It's as amusing, as it is annoying, to watch some people tripping over their own bias with all sorts of assumptions about what people think, because some of these regulars can totally read minds you know. Though not, apparently, the text in front of them. Perhaps a Sign o' The Times?
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Damn that orange man bad! I knew he had something to do with it all!BONES wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:48 am Don't feel bad, though, you are hardly on your own in that mindset. Donald Trump is like that, too.
(Is OMB starting to replace Godwin's law? I think, perhaps, so
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He was intentionally being funny right?
Also, when had Donald Trump ever disengaged from further personal back and forths? Trump would have came up with a nickname for Bones, (knowing Trump's style, my guess: Bonehead) and spent the next several weeks flaming him with it. Sure, he wouldn't have got into the finer points of a nuanced argument, but he wouldn't have deescalated either. So I don't think that part of the post holds up either.
Therefore, I'm pretty sure that whole post was some kind of meta satire.
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