Plucks for chk071
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- addled muppet weed
- 105872 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
i dont own any of the synapse synths, but do own and used since 2002/3 orion. and i dont even think the inbuilt synths have a similar character.
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- addled muppet weed
- 105872 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
theyre not dolls
theyre collectable action figurines and bobbleheads and lego
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- KVRAF
- 35436 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
You posted this very quickly, and said you put it all together in Orion.
But, that doesn't have to mean anything, of course.Yeah, rather because I feel like I could hear a bit of that character there. But, maybe the guess was wrong also, IDK.
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- Banned
- Topic Starter
- 10732 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
its my only host, been using it 20 years, so didn't take long to copy simple pattern into several synths... took me longer to find synth that actually had plucked sounds....
to try and put you off, I loaded the 32bit version, as I still have lots of crap installed for that (but never use it) but it wasn't easy finding the sounds in obscure synths...
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- KVRAF
- 35436 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Would you say that Moog or Oberheim synths have a certain character? Roland's synths?
I'm asking, because I think they do share a certain character, even when they have different filter chips. But, I always read a bit of the handwriting of the company's franchise in them. Maybe I'm wrong. But then, there's a lot of people who seem to like Moog. I don't think that would be the case if they all sounded like night and day. I even think that companies do want a certain footprint, just like Porsche's all sound similar to each other.
I can't comment on the Orion included stuff though, I never used or demo'd Orion, and I never played with those synths. They probably rather sound like Dune 1. Dune 2 kind of was a quantum leap from that, even though it also shares a couple of things, like similarities in the envelopes, or the unison sound. IMO, YMMV, etc.
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- addled muppet weed
- 105872 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
cant comment regards roland, never used any.
moog, there are a few that sound similar, but they seem to me more like updated versions, so they use older designs, add new controls and maybe tweak bits of the earlier design...
so there will be a sound to those.
but then they have others that are different, with no comparison to the others, eg the mini doesnt sound like the subharmonicon.
you can get a few close sounds, and for some reason thats what youtubers show mostly, but they can be wildly different, but that doesnt make a good comparison video.
oberheim, ive only fiddled a bit with other peoples, the matrix 12 and an ob8.
they sounded fairly different to me.
again, you can get close with some sounds, but others not so much.
but id say you could make some sounds on 9ne oberheim, one roland and one moog, and there will be some you can get close enough, the majority of people (as in actual synth peoples) wouldnt know which was which.
yes, there are some people who can recognise these things, there are guitarists who can name a guitar, tell you which pick up and what guage strings. plus colour of plectrum.
these people are like the xmen. this is there mutant power. it will not save the world
my phone had other ideas about this...
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- KVRist
- 399 posts since 26 Aug, 2011 from somewhere under the rainbow
You should rethink Your opinion on dolls. Pronto
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- addled muppet weed
- 105872 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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- KVRAF
- 35436 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
As I said, I probably won't be able to spot a synth in a A/B test, at least when it's not a typical sound which defines the character of the synth. I think that's the main misunderstanding: You tell someone that you smell a flower, and he thinks that you can distinguish it from a million of other flowers, which might even smell similar.
Black/white. That doesn't mean that the flower doesn't have a characteristic smell though.
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- GRRRRRRR!
- 15959 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle
Up to a point. Absolutely nobody would suggest the D-50 has a similar character to an SH 101 or that an SH 101 sounds anything like a TB 303. But you can definitely hear the similarties between a lot of Roland's synths, say a 101 and a Juno 6, because many of them share all kinds of bits and pieces. Similarly, Vurt may not be able to hear it but the filters in most of Orion's native generators have a very similar character.
The similarity between SEM and the OB's comes, I think, from the oscillators so even though the filters are completely different, there is a huge area of overlap in the way they sound.
That's a great analogy because Porsches all have similar engines that are very different to everyone else's - boxer engines derived long ago from the VW Beetle. They don't start from scratch with every new model, they build on what they have already created, making tweaks where necessary. But eventually you have to reinvent yourself to move with the times, which is why Porsche's new turbo fours sound very different to the old engines we are used to hearing. That's also why a D-50 doesn't sound like a Jupiter 8 and why an M1 doesn't sound like a DW8000.... just like Porsche's all sound similar to each other.
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