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hotmitts · Post by **hotmitts** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:31 am

So it would be great to just put ideas down with a voice and a mic, and turn that into a synth track or a wild effect or even an orchestra ( a weird one probably haha)

I've tried bouncing audio to MIDI but as far as I can see the results are pretty hard to control.

I've tried a good few FX chains but in the words of a song, I still haven't found what I'm looking for

Basically I'd like to use my guitar/voice audio as the start point, but turn it into something different...like synth sounds or ...something...it's hard to explain, I like experimenting with synths and drastic FX.

Just wondered what your thoughts were folks.

Digivolt · Post by **Digivolt** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:06 pm

Use paulstretch and make them into lush pads ?

experimental.crow · Post by **experimental.crow** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:25 pm

virta

hotmitts · Post by **hotmitts** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:20 pm

Digivolt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:06 pm Use paulstretch and make them into lush pads ?

I'll look into that, not heard of it - like a time stretch type of thing ? Or not

kelvyn · Post by **kelvyn** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:34 pm

If you have a synth with an audio input like the MS20 you could mangle the sound that way. Goldfrapp did that a lot on their first album Felt Mountain.
Or you could side chain the audio - vocal or whatever - into a soft synth that has a side chain Input.

hotmitts · Post by **hotmitts** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:48 pm

Thanks Kelvyn, Digivolt and Experimental Crow, I'll look into those suggestions

donkey tugger · Post by **donkey tugger** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:24 pm

A good trick is to use a convolution reverb with the impulse response reversed so you're getting a fading in signal. Of course you don't have to use reverbs for your IRs- using another instrument sample can give some interesting results.

Filters already mentioned - a good self oscillating filer (I like the Plug & Mix 'Moogy Filter') will create additional overtones/harmonies which you can manipulate. If you also pitch shift the audio you can get all types of whacky effects

Vocoders - again try all kinds of carrier signals.

Autoswell plug-ins (eg - http://pechenegfx.org/plugins/automatic ... u-formats/) can give interesting results, if a bit hit and miss if you're a sloppy player..

Physical techniques - ebow/TC Aeon are great as is using a volume pedal for swell sounds.

hotmitts · Post by **hotmitts** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:32 pm

donkey tugger wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:24 pm Filters already mentioned - a good self oscillating filer (I like the Plug & Mix 'Moogy Filter') will create additional overtones/harmonies which you can manipulate. If you also pitch shift the audio you can get all types of whacky effects

Thanks donkey tugger, lot of good ideas there. I just looked for free filters and came across this which is another good use of a filter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEToI3P ... =emb_title

bftucker · Post by **bftucker** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:05 am

Probably not what you are looking for but this technique has many different applications:

https://youtu.be/hoFPxldU1BQ

Try it on electric piano for example:

https://youtu.be/5e5nVl6B6zY

nix808 · Post by **nix808** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:47 am

I'm working on and improving my guitar to synth plug-in today,
but I have a recent release here->
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/1jskh6
& here is the development thread->
viewtopic.php?f=298&t=439603

it takes regular guitar, just adjust gain to taste
the midi is very zippery
it's polyphonic enough

-like I say I am trimming and adjusting it and within 5 days I will release again, it's better again already. I'm happy to answer any questions, whether functional or technical

the approximate total knowledge of man/woman in regards to synth guitar is here->
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/

metaside · Post by **metaside** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:03 am

Spectral morphing with Zynaptiq Morph or Melda MMorph or using Audio Input for FM in a modular environment such as Bitwig or with a plugin such as FM Slimer.

hotmitts · Post by **hotmitts** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:18 am

bftucker wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:05 am Probably not what you are looking for but this technique has many different applications:

No idea what I'm looking for haha but I'll know when I get there
-actually that sounds pretty amazing, he's getting some great sounds.
Wonder if that could be emulated with existing soft FX ( probably won't be quite the same but it's interesting to try)

FrettedSynth · Post by **FrettedSynth** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:13 pm

https://rekkerd.org/fretted-synth/ Old and 32bit only but you could try some of the synths for vocals\guitar

hotmitts · Post by **hotmitts** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:09 pm

nix808 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:47 am I'm working on and improving my guitar to synth plug-in today,
but I have a recent release here->
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/4y5sy9
& here is the development thread->
viewtopic.php?f=298&t=439603

it takes regular guitar, just adjust gain to taste
the midi is very zippery
it's polyphonic enough

-like I say I am trimming and adjusting it and within 5 days I will release again, it's better again already. I'm happy to answer any questions, whether functional or technical

the approximate total knowledge of man/woman in regards to synth guitar is here->
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/

Lots more to look at there , thanks nix808

hotmitts · Post by **hotmitts** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:17 pm

FrettedSynth wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:13 pm https://rekkerd.org/fretted-synth/ Old and 32bit only but you could try some of the synths for vocals\guitar

Thank you FrettedSynth, so StringSculptor2, Trampler, TrippLead - you load them as effects on an audio source ? Personally I use Reason (don't ask) which doesn't like 32 bit VST or bridge software so I'll have to remember how to do stuff in Reaper again haha

Turning vocals or guitar audio into synth type sound