Seeking replacement VST's for Ohmicide, QuadFrohmage and Ohmboyz
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1422 posts since 16 Jan, 2004 from Minneapolis, MN.
Good evening,
Well, I think I've reached the end of my rope with Ohmforce. I'm running Cubase 10.5 and I've now realized that all three of the plugins mentioned in this Subject no longer respond to Automation. This, along with the LFO's now deciding to refuse to sync to the transport have driven me up the wall... and I've emailed support three times over the last two months with no response.
So, since I may be binning these classic VSTs from my workflow - I'd like to ask what some good replacements for them may be. I adored QuadFrohmage for it's flexible routing and modulation options. Ohmboyz for it's rich delay path structure and Ohmicide as a multi-purpose distortion unit.
Thank you,
Erik
Well, I think I've reached the end of my rope with Ohmforce. I'm running Cubase 10.5 and I've now realized that all three of the plugins mentioned in this Subject no longer respond to Automation. This, along with the LFO's now deciding to refuse to sync to the transport have driven me up the wall... and I've emailed support three times over the last two months with no response.
So, since I may be binning these classic VSTs from my workflow - I'd like to ask what some good replacements for them may be. I adored QuadFrohmage for it's flexible routing and modulation options. Ohmboyz for it's rich delay path structure and Ohmicide as a multi-purpose distortion unit.
Thank you,
Erik
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- KVRAF
- 3982 posts since 20 Feb, 2004
Oh man, sorry to hear they're not working under Cubase 10.5. Those are some real classics and it might be hard to replace them; I have fond memories of the Ohmies' stuff, including those plugins.
As far as delays go, have you investigated Unfiltered Audio's Sandman Pro? I have it but haven't used it much... But I understand it is quite flexible/modulatable.
As far as delays go, have you investigated Unfiltered Audio's Sandman Pro? I have it but haven't used it much... But I understand it is quite flexible/modulatable.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1422 posts since 16 Jan, 2004 from Minneapolis, MN.
I haven't heard of Sandman Pro. I've been out of the music hobby for... a bit (namely software, fell into a Eurorack hole, but figuring out my balance) but I'll check it out. Thanks.
Yeah, it's sad to see them be so wonky. I'm more surprised at the lack of a response from their Support email at this point. I love those plugins and I'll be incredibly sad to sunset them.
Yeah, it's sad to see them be so wonky. I'm more surprised at the lack of a response from their Support email at this point. I love those plugins and I'll be incredibly sad to sunset them.
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- KVRAF
- 2989 posts since 5 Nov, 2014
Ohmicide - FabFilter Saturn
Quad Frohmage - Cytomic The Drop
Quad Frohmage - Cytomic The Drop
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- KVRian
- 671 posts since 8 Jan, 2005 from Germany
They can also be controled via midi learn which is much more flexible than automation tracks, in my opinion (I also use Cubase 10.5.20). I completly gave up on Ohmicide a long time ago, as it's constantly crashing Cubase but OhmBoyz works (havent used it lately).
Finding substitutes that have the same features should be easy ... but soundwise Izotope Trash and Audio Damage Kombinat Tri can also sound agressive but it's not the same as Ohmicide. Best multiband distortion in terms of features/usability is Fabfilter Saturn 2, as Passing Bye said
I have no experiences with QuadFrohmage, but Sugar Bytes WOW2 is a great sounding Filter/Distortion with lots of modulation options Same for FilterShaper/Shaperbox by CableGuys.
For OhmBoyz your best option is to wait for OhmBoyz Infinity (official release date 4/2018 )
Seams the developer has lost his enthusiasm since OhmStudio flopped
Finding substitutes that have the same features should be easy ... but soundwise Izotope Trash and Audio Damage Kombinat Tri can also sound agressive but it's not the same as Ohmicide. Best multiband distortion in terms of features/usability is Fabfilter Saturn 2, as Passing Bye said
I have no experiences with QuadFrohmage, but Sugar Bytes WOW2 is a great sounding Filter/Distortion with lots of modulation options Same for FilterShaper/Shaperbox by CableGuys.
For OhmBoyz your best option is to wait for OhmBoyz Infinity (official release date 4/2018 )
Seams the developer has lost his enthusiasm since OhmStudio flopped
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1422 posts since 16 Jan, 2004 from Minneapolis, MN.
Oof. I'm so sorry to hear that Ohmicide was crashing Cubase for you. I never had that issue and it was a constant tool in my toolbox.
I really wish OhmStudio didn't flop - I liked the concept quite a lot but... admittedly, never looked into it seriously. I was already deep into Cubase and learning another DAW is a hard ask.
I really wish OhmStudio didn't flop - I liked the concept quite a lot but... admittedly, never looked into it seriously. I was already deep into Cubase and learning another DAW is a hard ask.
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 16369 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
Trash 2 is an option for distortion. Comes with great filtering, convolution and compression to really help to design a sound that'll fit many scenarios.
For delay, it'll depend how much of what you liked about OhmBoyz depended on it's multi-tap features. For the craziness, I'd look at Sandman Pro and RP-Delay, which can also do some off the wall delays. But if you liked how dangerous playing with OB's filter could be, then Replika XT with it's in-line filter option can also easily get into 'about-to-blow-your-speakers' territory...espexially with the peak filter. A lot of fun
It is also worth mentioning that OhmForce are apparently working slowly on bringing their plugins up-to-date. Despite promising to keep people in the loop, they are not forthcoming with any info. However, every year-or-so, they do show screenshots of progress.Doesn't fill me with confidence, but who knows. If you have the cash, and feel like taking a ount, you can get a special pre-order discount via your account.
For delay, it'll depend how much of what you liked about OhmBoyz depended on it's multi-tap features. For the craziness, I'd look at Sandman Pro and RP-Delay, which can also do some off the wall delays. But if you liked how dangerous playing with OB's filter could be, then Replika XT with it's in-line filter option can also easily get into 'about-to-blow-your-speakers' territory...espexially with the peak filter. A lot of fun
It is also worth mentioning that OhmForce are apparently working slowly on bringing their plugins up-to-date. Despite promising to keep people in the loop, they are not forthcoming with any info. However, every year-or-so, they do show screenshots of progress.Doesn't fill me with confidence, but who knows. If you have the cash, and feel like taking a ount, you can get a special pre-order discount via your account.
- KVRian
- 1421 posts since 14 Apr, 2016 from Germany
Now that came unexpected.. *cough**cough*
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 11054 posts since 12 May, 2008
In addition to Trash, Kombinat is a good multiband distortion alternative.
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- KVRian
- 671 posts since 8 Jan, 2005 from Germany
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:40 pm It is also worth mentioning that OhmForce are apparently working slowly on bringing their plugins up-to-date. Despite promising to keep people in the loop, they are not forthcoming with any info. However, every year-or-so, they do show screenshots of progress.Doesn't fill me with confidence, but who knows. If you have the cash, and feel like taking a ount, you can get a special pre-order discount via your account.
Good news ... somehow They still have great sounding product line, that should simply get some updates. I would pay for an Ohmicide update that's stable ... and has a less artistic UI
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- KVRian
- 671 posts since 8 Jan, 2005 from Germany
Some bugs are graphic card related. I switched from Nvidia to ATI (which i would highly recommend to all nvidia useres) and I have the feeling that this was the time when Ohmicide stoped working ... i might be wrong, but otherwise my Cubase is rock solid (Win 10)._oswald wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:30 pm Oof. I'm so sorry to hear that Ohmicide was crashing Cubase for you. I never had that issue and it was a constant tool in my toolbox.
I really wish OhmStudio didn't flop - I liked the concept quite a lot but... admittedly, never looked into it seriously. I was already deep into Cubase and learning another DAW is a hard ask.
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 16369 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
Like this, perhaps:audiot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:56 pmel-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:40 pm It is also worth mentioning that OhmForce are apparently working slowly on bringing their plugins up-to-date. Despite promising to keep people in the loop, they are not forthcoming with any info. However, every year-or-so, they do show screenshots of progress.Doesn't fill me with confidence, but who knows. If you have the cash, and feel like taking a ount, you can get a special pre-order discount via your account.
Good news ... somehow They still have great sounding product line, that should simply get some updates. I would pay for an Ohmicide update that's stable ... and has a less artistic UI
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 16369 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
P.S I loved their older art-style gui's. And my only complaint about Ohmicide's was the small size
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- KVRAF
- 6828 posts since 28 Apr, 2004 from france
For delays, maybe that D16 Sigmund or Eareckon's Earebound could suit your needs.
https://d16.pl/sigmund
https://www.eareckon.com/en/products/ea ... st-au.html
As far as filter goes, you may find a similar grit and crazyness (than with the Omhboys) with Inear Display plugins.
https://ineardisplay.com/plugins/cruelle/
https://ineardisplay.com/plugins/regressif/
For multiband saturation AD Kombinat is good (as said above). BlueCat Destructor is also a very powerful saturation device (while being full spectrum, not multiband, but the pre & post eqs allow for great pre/de-emphasis).
https://www.bluecataudio.com/Products/P ... estructor/
(On a very personal note, in the context of this thread and despite being an awesome sound mangler i would not suggest Izotope Trash, because it is nearly as old and abandonware as the Omhboyz)
https://d16.pl/sigmund
https://www.eareckon.com/en/products/ea ... st-au.html
As far as filter goes, you may find a similar grit and crazyness (than with the Omhboys) with Inear Display plugins.
https://ineardisplay.com/plugins/cruelle/
https://ineardisplay.com/plugins/regressif/
For multiband saturation AD Kombinat is good (as said above). BlueCat Destructor is also a very powerful saturation device (while being full spectrum, not multiband, but the pre & post eqs allow for great pre/de-emphasis).
https://www.bluecataudio.com/Products/P ... estructor/
(On a very personal note, in the context of this thread and despite being an awesome sound mangler i would not suggest Izotope Trash, because it is nearly as old and abandonware as the Omhboyz)
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- KVRian
- 671 posts since 8 Jan, 2005 from Germany
... thats a great UI When did they post that screenshot? Before or after that blue one from the homepage?el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:00 pmLike this, perhaps:audiot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:56 pmel-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:40 pm It is also worth mentioning that OhmForce are apparently working slowly on bringing their plugins up-to-date. Despite promising to keep people in the loop, they are not forthcoming with any info. However, every year-or-so, they do show screenshots of progress.Doesn't fill me with confidence, but who knows. If you have the cash, and feel like taking a ount, you can get a special pre-order discount via your account.
Good news ... somehow They still have great sounding product line, that should simply get some updates. I would pay for an Ohmicide update that's stable ... and has a less artistic UI