can someone please do a great a circuit emulation VST of analogue drum machines?

[Teksonik]

Rc 808 is now available as a vst3 plugin
Created by the original Roland engineers that did tr 808
It’s an amazing piece of software
https://rc-808.com/
And for those wondering , it’s free

Again just as a heads up from the download page:

"However, please note that this is a conceptual model.
We fully understand that, although we continue developing and updating this conceptual offspring of ours, it is still in its very preliminary phase, and thus is full of bugs....

Therefore, please note that because the RC-808 “Re-Create the 808” is merely a conceptual model to show the originally intended architecture of the TR-808, it is not fully developed as an instrument for actual usage. We do not bear any responsibility for any possible inconvenience or damages caused by this. We cannot answer to any inquiries for this product as well".

I don't know it that applies to the VST version as well but since it was just released.....

[aciddose]

What they mean is their software is intended as a model, like a pre-prototype. I've designed similar things before I've built electronic circuits using software implementations. The software version is a proof-of-concept and technical demonstration, but that doesn't mean it "works".

The TR-808 was an actual product with all the kinks worked out that could correctly store patterns and operate in a reliable manner. It was NOT a prototype.

Xhip Synthesizer Alpha is a prototype version of Xhip Synthesizer in the same way.

Likewise, Xhip Compressor is a model that was first a pre-prototype, then I designed a electronic circuit prototype, then I modified the software model to match the electronic circuit more closely. Xhip Compressor is not the same as the analog circuit, it's just a model of it with roughly the same behavior.

In a lot of cases if you ran the software and the circuit side-by-side they'd sound the same, but when you get into corner-cases like with very fast attack/decay and lots of drive the circuit performs much better in some ways (no aliasing, higher accuracy) and worse in others (high noise.)

The fact is, it's simply impossible to create software that performs exactly the same as an electronic circuit. No matter what you do there are issues with approximating the results and diminishing returns where the software becomes incredibly more expensive than the original circuit it attempts to model.

[Echoes in the Attic]

I am still waiting for a great drum synth plugin, that delivers both the classic analog emulations of the 808 and 909 as well as novel engines.

Tremor was nice, but I always hate the damn interface of this drum plugins with sequencers. The perfect drum plugin also comes with one part instrument, drummatic has this and it is awesome when you don't want the whole 8 parts,

Drumatic has a single part version? Can't test currently to find out myself. I see nothing about that in the documentation though.

[Teksonik]

What they mean is their software is intended as a model, like a pre-prototype.

"....it is still in its very preliminary phase, and thus is full of bugs....it is not fully developed as an instrument for actual usage. We do not bear any responsibility for any possible inconvenience or damages caused by this".

That's why I won't bother to install it....not that big of an 808 fan to bother.....

[rod_zero]

I am still waiting for a great drum synth plugin, that delivers both the classic analog emulations of the 808 and 909 as well as novel engines.

Tremor was nice, but I always hate the damn interface of this drum plugins with sequencers. The perfect drum plugin also comes with one part instrument, drummatic has this and it is awesome when you don't want the whole 8 parts,

Drumatic has a single part version? Can't test currently to find out myself. I see nothing about that in the documentation though.

Sorry I got plugins confused, it is drumaxx of IL which has single part version

[gentleclockdivider]

Drumatic 3 has a single part version to play chromatically across the keyboard .
Microtonic can do that with any of it's 8 parts , and waldorf attack has a 12 part multimbral synth part + 12 part inndividual kit

[chk071]

Just FYI, D16 Drumazon (909) can be had for very cheap at the moment: https://www.jrrshop.com/d16-drumazon

[electro]

Drumazon is the only d16 VSTI I would recommend.

[excuse me please]

Ha, I'm going to install the rc-808. Who does not like the 808?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YeZZk2czG1c

[antic604]

Drumazon is the only d16 VSTI I would recommend.

Really?? What's wrong with their other wonderful instruments and FX?

[e-crooner]

Drum sounds are so short, is it worth emulating the circuits and everything?

Many of the original sounds were sample-based, so why not use samples now?
And for the synth-based original sounds, a good general-purpose synth plugin should do the trick.

[chk071]

Drum sounds are so short, is it worth emulating the circuits and everything?

Many of the original sounds were sample-based, so why not use samples now?

They only partly were samples. As for the synthesized drum sounds, you'd need thousands of samples to cover every possible setting (don't think that's possible, and, it's also kind of pointless).

Apart from the whole fun of being able to operate the emulation like you would operate the real thing.

[rod_zero]

Something like microtonic but with better interface, also single drum part to use inside Drum racks or similar.

[crystalmsc]

Electro Drums for Voltage Modular is a great emulation of analog drum machine with an easy to use sequencer. Coupled with Digi Drums for the crunchy 80s 8bit samples and sampler player for a complete system. There's some air in their engine/sampler that I really like, reminds me a bit of a vintage E-mu sampler. There's also a Syndrum emulation from the original maker. Softube Heartbeat which can be used in their modular plugin is great, as well as Waldorf Attack and Tokyo in Korg Gadget.

[electro]

Drumazon is the only d16 VSTI I would recommend.

Really?? What's wrong with their other wonderful instruments and FX?

The other drum machine emulations fall short. Drumazon gets closer. This is what they are all trying to sound like
https://www.wavealchemy.co.uk/revolution/pid179/