Which synths can do this?

[Jkist]

So I was hanging out with my little brother, and he has this little Kalimba that sounds pretty good. I thought it would be fun to create a soundpatch from scratch in a synth. I ran into a problem that MUST be due to user error, because it seems like something so obvious.

So I first tried this in Serum. I wanted to have a basic sine sound in Osc A, with a long release and a slight attack. Then I wanted a more percussive sound in Osc B with no release, and very little decay.

Basically I wanted Env1 to control Osc A, and Env2 to control Osc B. However, it seems both oscillators are hard-routed through Env1, and there is no way to change this.

I tried this in Pigments and ran into a similar issue.

I was able to do what I wanted in Rapid because you can basically layer stacks of different synths, so this was easily achieved using two separate synth stacks.

Now am I just ignorant, or is this really a limitation on many synths? Why not have the ability to have a separate amp envelope for each oscillator? Perhaps this was impossible on most hardware synths because the amp envelope was just part of the hardware, but in a soft synth this shouldnt be too hard to do.

[AnX]

it's the norm

easiest way is to layer a very basic synth, or use a synth with layers

[Torchlight]

You can have separate amp envelopes in VPS Avenger.

[Halonmusic]

Full Bucket the blooo, scrooo and the qyooo all have three envelopes. ModulAir can have 10 or more envelopes if you want since its a modular synth. Plus they are free and fantastic sounding synths.

https://www.fullbucket.de/music/vst.html

[jm.schloemer]

In Pigment's Analog module, all oscillators have separate volume controls. Have you tried modulating those with the envelopes?

[Mushy Mushy]

In Serum set Env1 to max sustain, Env2 to Osc1, Env3 to Osc2

[yellowmix]

What Mushy Mushy said. Serum has many envelopes that will show up when you use them up.

Learn to master the synths you have. Read the manual, watch tutorial videos, register on the Xfer forums and read the posts, join the Xfer Discord, etc..

[ChamomileShark]

It would probably be easier to do in one of the physical modelling synths, Chromophone, the NI thing, was it Prism or is that the reverb?

[Skupje]

I made a synth like this in Reaktor.. It's sort of lacking in finesse but hey it works.

pling.7z

[vurt]

I made a synth like this in Reaktor.. It's sort of lacking in finesse but hey it works.
pling.7z

why is it not called "one pling only'?

[Skupje]

Whats the matter,

[vurt]

Whats the matter,

nothing really.
just think it might be nice to give the awesome one ping only a bit of a nod

[pierb]

Zebra can do this.

[Skupje]

nothing really.
just think it might be nice to give the awesome one ping only a bit of a nod

Fair enough Guess the player doesn't offer any help either. Was going to say strap on some randomizers on the two big FM and AM knobs, and use a variable lowpass filter on the velocity sensitivity.

[ChamomileShark]

I made a synth like this in Reaktor.. It's sort of lacking in finesse but hey it works.
pling.7z

why is it not called "one pling only'?

You know you are wasted here.

And I say that as one genius to another.