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Which synths can do this?
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- addled muppet weed
- 105800 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
- KVRist
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- 282 posts since 21 Jul, 2020
I tried something like this. Couldn't find a way to set an envelope to an entire oscillatorMushy Mushy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:33 am In Serum set Env1 to max sustain, Env2 to Osc1, Env3 to Osc2
- KVRAF
- 4590 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
You need layers. Sylenth1 has these , Dune also.
Any FM synth should have separate ADSR for every operator, too.
Any FM synth should have separate ADSR for every operator, too.
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- KVRist
- 222 posts since 24 Jul, 2020
You'd have an easier time using any decent patchable synth. What you need is a VCA that you can route your aux envelope(s) to - this would give you an additional gain stage on the signal path of your choosing. (this is why I included those multipliers in my plugin - I was frustrated with this, too!)
Almost all VST synths are going to have a "main envelope" as a final gain stage. This is because you need a way to tell when your voice is done sounding out, especially when dealing with polyphony, and having an envelope at the very end is the easiest way to know just how long your voice will continue to play after note release.
In the case of wanting one soft attack sound with release plus one plucky sound with no release in the same patch. assuming that the main envelope is stuck doing it's job and can't be bypassed, you're going to need at least 2 aux envelopes. Initially, I thought you might be able to get away with one aux plus the main envelope, but a soft attack on the main envelope would negate the pluckiness on the plucky voice, and a plucky decay on the main envelope would ruin the sustain of the soft attack voice.
Since you're handling all the main gain control with the aux envelopes, just set your attack and decay to zero and sustain to 100% on the main envelope. Also, be sure to set the release on the main envelope to a value larger than the release value on the soft attack oscillator's envelope or you'll cut the release short.
Almost all VST synths are going to have a "main envelope" as a final gain stage. This is because you need a way to tell when your voice is done sounding out, especially when dealing with polyphony, and having an envelope at the very end is the easiest way to know just how long your voice will continue to play after note release.
In the case of wanting one soft attack sound with release plus one plucky sound with no release in the same patch. assuming that the main envelope is stuck doing it's job and can't be bypassed, you're going to need at least 2 aux envelopes. Initially, I thought you might be able to get away with one aux plus the main envelope, but a soft attack on the main envelope would negate the pluckiness on the plucky voice, and a plucky decay on the main envelope would ruin the sustain of the soft attack voice.
Since you're handling all the main gain control with the aux envelopes, just set your attack and decay to zero and sustain to 100% on the main envelope. Also, be sure to set the release on the main envelope to a value larger than the release value on the soft attack oscillator's envelope or you'll cut the release short.
- KVRAF
- 7691 posts since 11 Jun, 2006
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- KVRAF
- 9216 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from Pequot Lakes, MN
This - it works with any of Pigments' oscillators. Just assign an envelope to the volume of the oscillator you want the short decay with.jm.schloemer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:27 am In Pigment's Analog module, all oscillators have separate volume controls. Have you tried modulating those with the envelopes?
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- KVRist
- 77 posts since 5 Dec, 2019
Each "Output" in Phase Plant gets their own envelope. You can send multiple Generators (of which oscillators are a type) through one output or one Generator through multiple Outputs.