Fender Twin Reverb Blackface AMP Sims

[electro]

Presonus looks interesting.

[The Noodlist]

I haven't demo'd it yet but based on some videos I've watched, the new Presonus Ampire Twin sounds very good.

I didn't realise they did demos on plug-ins.

[Echoes in the Attic]

I haven't demo'd it yet but based on some videos I've watched, the new Presonus Ampire Twin sounds very good.

I didn't realise they did demos on plug-ins.

I don't think they do. At least I haven't been able to find a demo for Ampire but I only just became aware of it yesterday. However Studio One has a demo and I am assuming that Ampire is included in that demo, so that seems like the way to try it. Since they sell Ampire separately now, they should really have a demo of it though.

[mumpcake]

https://youtu.be/oQ6ZZ_u9X_M

It will be interesting if they offer expansions or develop this further.

[electro]

looking into Ampire

[Burillo]

Amplitube Fender 2 doesn't have a Twin, afaik. Scuffham does nice tones, though.

AFAIK it does, unless i'm misunderstanding what a "Twin" is.

[imrae]

Amplitube Fender 2 doesn't have a Twin, afaik. Scuffham does nice tones, though.

AFAIK it does, unless i'm misunderstanding what a "Twin" is.

The 50s tweed Twin-Amp models are included in the "Fender Twin" wikipedia page, and that's what the 40W '57 Custom Twin-Amp is based on

But yeah, it's quite a different beast from an 85W 70s blackface Twin Reverb.

[telecode]

I use the IKM Fender 2 collection. they have this. I don't really know the difference between the blackface twin and 57 twin amp.

https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/f ... php?p=gear

[egbert]

I use the IKM Fender 2 collection. they have this. I don't really know the difference between the blackface twin and 57 twin amp.

https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/f ... php?p=gear

As Fender advanced through the years from the tweed to brownface to blackface, Fender refined and revoiced the amps in the direction of more clarity. The amps got cleaner and the output sections gained power. So anyone who has played a 65 twin reissue or a silverface twin knows that they go incredibly loud while remaining quite clean. This was desirable for jazz, country, pedal steel players, electric piano players etc - especially playing outdoors.

The dirt that people soloing in a rock style wanted was to be had driving the smaller amps into distortion - eg the Deluxe Reverb which figured on a zillion recording dates - and the tweeds and brownface amps did this stuff really well and are much desired - check on Jone Bonamassa's high gain tweed sounds. Fender made some amps like the Pro Reverb which covered all the bases with clean sounds and dirtier sounds in the one box at more modest volume levels.

[telecode]

I use the IKM Fender 2 collection. they have this. I don't really know the difference between the blackface twin and 57 twin amp.

https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/f ... php?p=gear

As Fender advanced through the years from the tweed to brownface to blackface, Fender refined and revoiced the amps in the direction of more clarity. The amps got cleaner and the output sections gained power. So anyone who has played a 65 twin reissue or a silverface twin knows that they go incredibly loud while remaining quite clean. This was desirable for jazz, country, pedal steel players, electric piano players etc - especially playing outdoors.

The dirt that people soloing in a rock style wanted was to be had driving the smaller amps into distortion - eg the Deluxe Reverb which figured on a zillion recording dates - and the tweeds and brownface amps did this stuff really well and are much desired - check on Jone Bonamassa's high gain tweed sounds. Fender made some amps like the Pro Reverb which covered all the bases with clean sounds and dirtier sounds in the one box at more modest volume levels.

cool. no idea about that. i have a striped down fender col 1 that i used on ipad with irig cables. not sure if its a fair comparison. but it didn't sound as good as fender col 2.

[Winstontaneous]

I use the IKM Fender 2 collection. they have this. I don't really know the difference between the blackface twin and 57 twin amp.

https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/f ... php?p=gear

As Fender advanced through the years from the tweed to brownface to blackface, Fender refined and revoiced the amps in the direction of more clarity. The amps got cleaner and the output sections gained power. So anyone who has played a 65 twin reissue or a silverface twin knows that they go incredibly loud while remaining quite clean. This was desirable for jazz, country, pedal steel players, electric piano players etc - especially playing outdoors.

The dirt that people soloing in a rock style wanted was to be had driving the smaller amps into distortion - eg the Deluxe Reverb which figured on a zillion recording dates - and the tweeds and brownface amps did this stuff really well and are much desired - check on Jone Bonamassa's high gain tweed sounds. Fender made some amps like the Pro Reverb which covered all the bases with clean sounds and dirtier sounds in the one box at more modest volume levels.

It's counter-intuitive, but in real-life with non-master volume Fender Twins, you can actually get more usable distortion with the lower-preamp-gain Input 2 per channel because it lets you drive the power tubes hotter. This is girthier breakup than fizzy preamp tube distortion, that works better with chords...but of course it's nothing like a master-volume Marshall, Boogie, etc.

I hate Twins of all vintages with a passion unless they're played in a theater or larger venue - as a working bassist for many years, the bulk of my tinnitus can be blamed on guitarists using these monstrosities in smaller rooms.

[lfm]

I wonder if anybody can trap Blackface twin from a Silverface twin as a sim.
This is fine differences for a purist guitar player to discover.
Have read discussions on guitar forums over this and not like it's night and day difference.
It was amp builders that were trying to reproduce the same Blackface in hardware as the clenod Blackface was.

But the mentioned SimulAnalog one, from like 20 years ago really had a Twin that resembled what Twin do.

But to actually say Blackface or Silverface, I don't think so.
That somebody claim to do Blackface in a sim is a big LOL IMO.

In the Superchamp X2 the Twin is also a resemblance - but to say Blackface or Silverface - there are fine differences. Mostly about panel being black or silver, but some things changed inside. As I recall if it was diode tube with sag as well in Blackface that fender removed. Was it more circuit board, not point to point soldering etc.

I had a Pro Reverb from the Concert series, more modern. But did not like how it saturated. You had to use pedals.

I think Dumble is trying to recreate what Blackface was, and many others too.

[electro]

Overloud has something New.
https://www.overloud.com/products/choptones-fend-twin65

[Scrubbing Monkeys]

[SoftAmp FM25

I still love that one. Not greatly like a Fender Twin, but it has it's own character, great for funk and the more scratchy end of jangle/indie.

It really does hold up well.

Another vote for SKnote....I dont have the Twin but the Deluxe 1 is my goto right now. It is quite a bit more alive because of the "dynamic speaker thingy"

Kuassa Vermillion is very good.

Also The Joyo pedal sims are really cool. They also save on tweekitus.

[jamcat]

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